• BonerMan@ani.social
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    12 hours ago

    You can move to most European countries and learn the language from the welcoming people there that can switch to English or use a translator if necessary.

    In France you are just a outcast, this is due to French people being assholes with their noses up their ass.

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      11 hours ago

      That has not been my experience of France. Maybe its just me but almost everyone I met in Paris was friendly and many spoke English at least a little. I had some wild nights getting trashed and riding the Metro all over, no one gave me any shit for speaking English anywhere I went. I wouldn’t try to live there without at least a basic understanding of the language but as an English speaking visitor it was perfectly fine and I found the random Parisians I met to generally be cool people and not at all like their reputation.

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      12 hours ago

      Yeah, France is the exception, but only because they’re narcissistic pricks with nothing to be narcissistic about, particularly their pricks.

      I speak French and was an outcast, though it wasn’t nearly as bad outside of Paris, other cities just ignore you mostly.

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        Note: I was an exchange student in the US, and hosted some US student in return, back in France. So I was able to live the culture shock first hand. 😆

        It is true that there is a sharp contrast between the French way of life and other, more easy going countries, like the US.

        Politeness is key, especially between strangers. But without knowing any of the rules, a foreigner has a good chance of being rude without even realizing it.

        But once you got past that hard outer shell, we can be quite friendly. Of course, there are exceptions, and I personally experienced some pretty rude waiter in Paris… once.

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          It’s not that.

          Sweden is probably more polite, and it’s fine. The rest of France is also lovely.

          Paris just seems to breed assholes somehow.

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      This was my experience in Paris, but not in Nice, even away from the tourist traps like Vizille I was very much encouraged to speak my broken French so I could learn. If they spoke English they’d apoligize for a dropped participle and then pull out a word like pugillistic.

      Parisians hate everyone, including the French.

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      12 hours ago

      They are not assholes for preferring their own language over the beetroot-chomping English (Simplified) of some obnoxious foreigners, too arrogant to at least adapt a little.

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        They’re assholes.

        I speak French, in Paris they still look at you like garbage.

        Actually, outside of Paris I got along fine, but here’s the thing: Even native french speakers from outside of Paris are treated like absolute garbage by Parisians, it’s their only setting.

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          But that’s Paris. Parisians see everyone as tourists I guess.

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            Yeah, but … that’s like saying “Oh, that’s just London!” about England, that’s the key part of the country.

            Paris would be so much better if it weren’t for the fucking Parisians.

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              11 hours ago

              I found Londoners to be different in that respect, but that might be just me.

              Terrific gif, by the way, I love it.

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        11 hours ago

        You sound French.

        I speak three languages, I don’t speak French on purpose and I will never learn it, I’d rather learn Russian or Hebrew than French.

        They are as arrogant as it gets and they are hated for it rightfully.

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          11 hours ago

          I happen to speak French, German, Dutch and a bit of Russian, and if I dig deep, some remnants of Arabic might come up. I can assure you Russian is the more poetic but French definitely the easiest to learn.

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            I know that Russian is very hard, I didn’t learn French out of spite. I had it in school, I hated it so much that the moment it wasn’t longer necessary I abandoned the entire knowllage about it and I can’t remember anything meaningful (besides some meme stuff)