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Honestly i would hope that any artist of any type would take that feeling and incorporate it in their work in some capacity. I don’t believe that all art needs to come from tragedy or something terrible, but if one is a writer, one should be able to write when things aren’t great.
I think this shows a lack of conviction in one’s form of expression. I do think being bummed out about the political condition is a valid response, but it seems kind of whack to me too.
Kind of what I was thinking. I think if I want to be charitable he’s not saying he can’t write at all, or even that he can’t write capeshit, but that he can’t write from the optimistic perspective that these larger than life symbols can inspire us to do good and be better versions of ourselves. IE: Alan Moore was right all along (what a shock).
What’s sad is that it almost seems like his immediate instinct is that he has to phone in and fake that optimism because that’s the limits of the genre he’s working in. Personally I hope he does some soul searching and realizes that a cynical turn for his voice is entirely acceptable and not necessarily a decline.
IE: Alan Moore was right all along (what a shock).
people need to stop making Gandalf coded wizards and make Moore coded wizards
What’s sad is that it almost seems like his immediate instinct is that he has to phone in and fake that optimism because that’s the limits of the genre he’s working in. Personally I hope he does some soul searching and realizes that a cynical turn for his voice is entirely acceptable and not necessarily a decline.
Agreed. I’m not pro-being cynical, but I am pro-whatever voice is. If your voice is cynical, then be cynical, but be authentically so. Be authentic and execute on the authenticity well.
but that he can’t write from the optimistic perspective that these larger than life symbols can inspire us to do good and be better versions of ourselves.
IDK why he’d do that, couldn’t he just write new stories where the superheros are hated by a largely bigoted and uncaring society?
What infuriates me is that you’re 100% correct.
There’d be SUCH A COMPELLING HOOK in showing one of these capes that the uncritical audience accepts as a flagbearer of Amerikan Exceptionalism-- especially Captain Amerika, since DC’s been getting kinda based with Supes(call the volcel vanguard on me 'cause I’d let Latino Superman send me to meet Eddie) lately-- but like, show me Captain Amerika suddenly crippled by such a daunting lack of faith in his own countrymen that it makes him retire and fuck off to some other(lbr probably third-world) country to “soul search”.
From there, he’s gotta walk through a frankly-Boschian hellscape of countries that Amerika has ruined and left destitute. This would be the start of a renegade Captain Amerika lending his strength to the Brotherhood of Mutants; but it’d never make it past issue #1 because Marvel would have a diarrheal conniption fit at what I did to King Big Dick of the Avengers.
Exactly. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the dude is bummed out pretty major. We are all not feeling super jazzed about the future, but that’s not excuse to just say “This thing that has defined my artistic expression/professional experience is now bad”. It’s kinda of a cop out to me. Again, I feel for him, I feel for anyone who does artsy stuff right now, but yeah it’s a bit lame to just say “No more cause America voted bad”.
THE SUPERHEROES SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GOING AFTER THE ULTRA RICH AND POLITICIANS YOU FUCKING DULLARD
Honestly, capeshit is in my genre wheelhouse; and when I start drafting shit up for it? There’ll be no such thing as ‘infinitely-recurring villains’, 'cause my capes are putting capitalists down wherever they have the opportunity. Fuck letting Luthor get off with a slap on the wrist, put a laser pulse in the back of his bald-ass head and be done with it.
captain syndicalism executes luther and turns his businesses into worker owned co-ops
i usually find superman boring because he’s too OP and writers are bad, but at least luthor is usually evil af like real-life rich guys
I am begging some of these people to notice that material causes exist
Oh God, grow the fuck up, dude. Literal fucking genocide being streamed on Tiktok for a year and NOW you’re too hecking upset to write capeshit?
liberal baby fills his diaper, perhaps wonders whether the point of philosophy should be to change the world not just to explain it
Uphold Alan Moore/Garth Ennis thought.
Edit: Isn’t Mark Waid the one who wrote Empire, the comic about the supervillain after he killed all of the heroes?
i don’t believe in the basic goodness of my fellow Americans anymore
I think part of the reason this all galls me so much more than 2020 or 2016 is because liberals are MORE haughty and ‘distraught’ because their perceived better human being lost, while said better human being was in the midst of aggressively aiding an ethnic cleansing.
i don’t believe in the basic goodness of my fellow Americans anymore
Where’ve you been for the last…ever, clown boy? Just this millenium, this country has:
-Butchered Iraq and Afghanistan on the basis of lies for their natural resources and to sate bloodlust from 9/11
-Helped butcher Libya and Syria
-Is actively helping butcher Palestine while continuing to screw over Ukraine to spite Russia
And that’s just the wars I can think of offhand, and many of these ‘basically good people’ were fine with them! We haven’t even touched on how inhumanely this country treats the poor, or sexual/ethnic minorities, how immigration (if you’re coming through the southern border) is so deranged I’m pretty sure it qualifies as human rights abuse, the endless deceit…this country hasn’t been ‘good’ for as long as I’ve been alive, and it will only be ‘good’ when it is ‘good and dead’.
Who could imagine the nation that engaged in indigenous genocide, racial slavery, indigenous genocide again, more slavery, regional imperialism, global imperialism, social murder, and then more genocide would be lacking in basic human decency?
The only good amerikan is a dead or ex- amerikan frankly
like, no offense mark, but nobody in their right mind gives a shit about the quality of your work.
this is like a senior food engineer with a masters in endocrinology for McDonald’s corporate announcing that they’re going to really start phoning it in on the new McRib reboot.
like buddy, if you weren’t already checked out, you fucked up.
Especially when you’re in your 60s. Like you wait this long before you start slacking off?
Someone should write superheroes but like super edgy and FUCKED UP because the world is so fucked up. That would be so COOL I would see those movies. I have so many ideas in my head for this I wish the world was ready for it.
have you seen The Boys?
Dude that’s awesome. What if superheroes were sad? I get sad sometimes.
I don’t know about sad superheroes, but there are sad horse shows.
The 90s are back baby
new super guy can have a billion pouches as long as you cant see his feet
So, you’ll stop making fascist propaganda cause the fascist you don’t like won?
Promise?
I’m choosing to believe that this man is writing letters to superheroes and is keeping us all updated.
Writing a stern letter to Superman asking him why hasn’t he nuked Washington DC
Dear Superman,
I have been a very good boy this year, will you pretty please use your laser vision on Jeff Bezos?
More frank miller garth ennis supes
I would like to see them do an animated Hitman show
But it has to be animated, because I can picture the cgi nightmare that Baytor would be and I hate it
They were never good, not sure why you needed a 2nd trump win to see that. Cant wait for the reveal of who in the justice league voted Trump
Bruce Wayne definitely did and Victor Stone’s definitely mulling over beating him to death for it
oh thank god
“soon”
