Ive been runing Debian 12 (kde) since bookworm was released and am loving it.

I have recently discovered Devuan which seems to be Debian without systemd - what is the benefit of removing this init system?

  • Tobias Hunger@programming.dev
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    Fuck binary logs too.

    Text logs are binary, too… they just uses a pretty common binary encoding.

    Where do you actually use text logs? I did not use text logs outside of hobby machines ever during my career. Logs were either aggregated in databases or at least stored in temper-resistant formats (usually due to legal requirements).

    Do you actually use text logs in a professional setting? Just curious.

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      1 year ago

      If binary logs get corrupted they’re kaput; text logs are not (as far as I know?). Also you cannot grep binary logs? I wouldn’t know.

      No, I just have used Linux/BSDs for ~15 years in a non-professional setting.

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        With textlogs you have a hard time noticing a couple of added/removed/changed characters or even entire log entries. Thats exactly why some industries may not use text logs in the first place as permanent records that are at least temper-evident are mandated.

        If binary logs go kaputt they tell you exactly which entries were effected and still display every bit of data they contain. Typically you do not grep in binary logs: Grep can not make sense of all the extra data in the logs (way more than in a typical syslog), so grep is just a poor tool for the job. You typically can use grep as binary logs so contain lots of text. This is ignoring compression, encryption and other extras of course.