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An 8-panel Phoebe Teaching Joey meme.

The first panel is Phoebe from Friends saying “Russia”.

The second panel is Joey from the same show replying with “Russia”.

The third panel is Phoebe saying “has invaded”.

The fourth panel is Joey repeating back “has invaded”.

The fifth panel is Phoebe saying “Ukraine”.

The sixth panel is Joey repeating back “Ukraine”.

The seventh panel is Phoebe saying the completed phrase “Russia has invaded Ukraine”.

The final panel shows Joey proudly proclaiming “NATO just started a proxy war”.

  • TheDoozer@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    This seems like a win/win/win. We have a huge stockpile of weapons we built up almost explicitly to fight Russia (if need be), and now it gets to be used against them. And it doesn’t cost any American lives, which would make it seem like we’re exploiting another country to fight for us. But we’re not, we’re actually helping them repel an invader, so we get to be the good guys while getting everything we want! If we stopped sending weapons, Ukraine would be screwed. So everybody wins except the Russian!

    It’s rare in this world that a situation like this comes along, and we should be able to feel good about finally being the good guys.

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        1 year ago

        Firstly, we’ll save a lot more money than that by auditing the DoD like Katie Porter and Jon Stewart keep advocating for. I would much rather take my portion of a DoD audit on my next tax return.

        Secondly, would you like your next tax return to include shares in a Patriot missile system? Because I don’t know about you, but I don’t actually have any use for soon-to-be decommissioned weapons.

        Were you planning on overthrowing the bourgeoisie with your share of those missile systems?

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          1 year ago

          I was thinking if taking my family out to dinner. Maybe vacation, I’m not too sure what my cut would be.

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            1 year ago

            Given that you’re worried about income taxes, your cut is very small.

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                That’s not how income taxes work (you already got paid a rebate for your dependents) and equality in taxation is not a thing you actually want.

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                  I don’t care what you call it. I want a rebate, covid money, bailout, stimulus check, of my family share of all the aid sent to Ukraine, as of June this year that’s about $1,000 total and counting. That will cover a weekend trip to Big Sky this winter!

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                    1 year ago

                    The level of sheer selfish ignorance you display is incredibly shocking. But not unsurprising for someone clearly as blinkered as yourself.

                    For the price of some asinine trip to bumfuck Idaho you would allow an aggressive megalomaniac to achieve his goals? Do you really think he will stop after Ukraine, if he can get away with it?

                    You best believe that it is in your interest to keep Putin from winning this war. Or else you will find that a bigger problem waits for you and yours in a few years.

                    Appeasement only makes an aggressor more aggressive. You need a history lesson more than you need some holiday money.

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                    1 year ago

                    Well, wish in one hand and shit in the other and let me know which hand fills up.

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        Cool Id like to opt out of all the help you have recieved or will recieve. Please dont accept medicare or medicade.

        Also please stay off the of the portion of highways that I payed for.

        Thanx.

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        Then I call your debt to me for my portion of the taxes I paid for the highways you drive on, the social security you’ll claim when your older, and the 12 years of public education we paid for you and your children…

        What? Don’t want to pay that back? Then stfu and deal with it. Taxes are paid for the services rendered (education, medical expenses, highways, etc).

        After you pay for the services that money isn’t yours, it’s the government’s. You don’t get to tell other people how to spend their money. You choose to live in society so you choose to accept the services and their costs. The government uses this income, which is their money, and spends it how they see fit.

        Don’t like it? Too fucking bad. I didn’t think I would have to explain basic middle school economics to somebody who’s almost definitely a fully grown adult today.

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          My roads are paid for by my fuel tax, my social security (which I’m sure will never come back to me) is payed by myself now to get back negative returns later in life, and I pay for my children’s education. I’d love to opt out of social security actually, they can even keep what I’ve paid in to date. You’ve contributed nothing to me actually, and the government isn’t someone else or a corporation spending profit, it’s all of us.

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            You’re just proving more and more you don’t understand tax theory and American economics.

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              What part is wrong? my fuel isn’t taxed? I don’t pay SS tax? I don’t pay my kid’s tuition? I’d love to know what phantom taxes I can stop paying.

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                You do realise that regardless of whether you pay tuition, public education taxes were still collected on the assumption your children would possibly go to public schools. Your taxes alone do not fund your SS. Your taxes alone do not fund the things you would have benefited or do benefit from in America.

                That’s why they’re paid for with taxes. So you don’t pay as much.

                But I guess literal taxation theory 101, the fucking bare basics of tax theory, literally the simplest of the simplest concepts in economics was too difficult to conceptualise for you that you needed it stated plainly.

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                  So to summarize, I’m forced to pay taxes on things I don’t want, and wont use, so I don’t pay as much.

                  And I don’t know how you you think social security is funded, but as a business owner I fund mine 100% by my self, I’m forced to participate in a ponzi scheme with a negative rate of return under the threat of the full authority of every 3 letter federal agency.

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                    “I’m forced to pay taxes on things I don’t want” no

                    “And don’t use” nope.

                    “So I don’t pay as much” if you use them

                    Again you’re fundamentally misunderstanding taxation. You’re not paying taxes for those services (I mean, in a way you are but indirectly through cost of services) you pay for the benefits of living in society. You use public roads, you 100% cannot say you don’t because that’s near impossible in America. You use public roads, your utilities get sent through public infrastructure (even when provided by private corporations they utilise public infrastructure in 87.6% of cases), you 100% do use publicly funded services and benefit from taxation.

                    Anybody who honestly thinks they don’t is fucking delusional.

                    So for these services and goods, you pay money to the government. Then the government uses THEIR MONEY (because it is NO LONGER YOUR MONEY) to pay for other things. Things you might not use, but it’s not your fucking money. So you don’t get to decide how they spend it. Because it is not your money.

                    Once paid, that is the government’s money. Not yours. That’s how capitalism fucking works. It’s literal capitalism 101, I learned this in 5th, 7th, and again in 10th grade. Oh, right… you didn’t use public education… guess you should ask the private school you sent your kids to for a refund.

                    Edit: A list of things you almost definitely use, even if only occasionally, that are funded by taxes

                    • Weather Information
                    • GPS
                    • Roads
                    • Sewage
                    • Trash
                    • Agricultural Subsidies
                    • Medical Research
                    • Museums and Archival Programs
                    • Many Many More Things