It’s clear most of them have no idea how the industry works either; claiming bull shit like the cooks don’t care if they tip, that probably even prefer it that way since it doesn’t go to them. But the cooks DO get a cut of the tips! Just a bunch of selfish, delusional, cheap assholes.
The business transaction was between me and your employer. Not me and you. You are just their employee. I always pay my bill in full and have never stiffed anyone.
If your employer doesn’t pay you fairly, I’d suggest not working there. But I quite like the food so I’ll keep going, especially since how am I supposed to know if they aren’t paying you fairly? I’m not privy to your wages. And it’s not like the people doing the hard work of cooking that food or delivering the ingredients or cleaning up afterhours or even the people who physically built the restaurant itself give a fuck if I don’t tip. They probably prefer it. And yet, all those people work harder than you and play a much bigger part in my overall dining experience. But your work is also appreciated, so thank you. But no, I’m not tipping you if I’m not tipping the person who made this delicious meal in the first place or tipping the person who made this super comfortable chair I’m sitting on. It’s just not right and I have ethics.
You clearly have no idea how the industry works. In most places bartenders, cooks, and bussers are tipped out from the servers tips. They each get a certain percent of total tips the server made that night. So the person who made the food DOES get that tip you leave, as does the person who made your cocktail, and the person who cleaned up after you. So to say they prefer you don’t tip is utter bull shit. Get your cheap ass off that high horse. Your protest is nothing but you being selfish and grasping at any excuse to justify your shitty actions.
Ummmm I literally worked in the industry myself… which is exactly why I’m against tipping. I’m fully aware of the ‘tip out’ process. And you know as well as I do the vast majority goes to servers. And, at least in my experience, 0% went to after hours cleaning crew. And definitely none went to the chair manufacturer or the plumber who fixes the shitters. You can try to justify to yourself as much as you like, but it’s an inherently unfair system. Especially when assholes like me can just get away with tipping $0. Doesn’t seem too fair… and if anyone should be in favour of it, wouldn’t it be the assholes who don’t tip? They are the ones who directly benefiting from tip subsidized meals.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain how a system of inconsistent donation based income is better than a consistent and fair one… no one has even tried yet :(
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It’s clear most of them have no idea how the industry works either; claiming bull shit like the cooks don’t care if they tip, that probably even prefer it that way since it doesn’t go to them. But the cooks DO get a cut of the tips! Just a bunch of selfish, delusional, cheap assholes.
This thread was very sad to see. I know some people don’t tip but man the reasoning and entitlement I’m seeing is something else
The business transaction was between me and your employer. Not me and you. You are just their employee. I always pay my bill in full and have never stiffed anyone.
If your employer doesn’t pay you fairly, I’d suggest not working there. But I quite like the food so I’ll keep going, especially since how am I supposed to know if they aren’t paying you fairly? I’m not privy to your wages. And it’s not like the people doing the hard work of cooking that food or delivering the ingredients or cleaning up afterhours or even the people who physically built the restaurant itself give a fuck if I don’t tip. They probably prefer it. And yet, all those people work harder than you and play a much bigger part in my overall dining experience. But your work is also appreciated, so thank you. But no, I’m not tipping you if I’m not tipping the person who made this delicious meal in the first place or tipping the person who made this super comfortable chair I’m sitting on. It’s just not right and I have ethics.
You clearly have no idea how the industry works. In most places bartenders, cooks, and bussers are tipped out from the servers tips. They each get a certain percent of total tips the server made that night. So the person who made the food DOES get that tip you leave, as does the person who made your cocktail, and the person who cleaned up after you. So to say they prefer you don’t tip is utter bull shit. Get your cheap ass off that high horse. Your protest is nothing but you being selfish and grasping at any excuse to justify your shitty actions.
Ummmm I literally worked in the industry myself… which is exactly why I’m against tipping. I’m fully aware of the ‘tip out’ process. And you know as well as I do the vast majority goes to servers. And, at least in my experience, 0% went to after hours cleaning crew. And definitely none went to the chair manufacturer or the plumber who fixes the shitters. You can try to justify to yourself as much as you like, but it’s an inherently unfair system. Especially when assholes like me can just get away with tipping $0. Doesn’t seem too fair… and if anyone should be in favour of it, wouldn’t it be the assholes who don’t tip? They are the ones who directly benefiting from tip subsidized meals.
I’m still waiting for someone to explain how a system of inconsistent donation based income is better than a consistent and fair one… no one has even tried yet :(