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    “Oh my god, that person questioned my narrative about “x” they must be whomever I’m othering because I’m insecure and it’s easier to take trash than deeply reflect why. I’m going to label them that, that’ll teach them.” Please. 🥱

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      Or, OR, if you believe that trans people shouldn’t exist, or should stop being trans, you’re an asshole. If you support dictators (even ones who ride horses shirtless in publicity photos), you’re an asshole. If you fall into either of those categories, your opinion is completely worthless, and should be ignored by everybody.

      If you’re so busy defending your abhorrent beliefs to take the time to self reflect and figure out why other people find them abhorrent, then you’re not just part of the problem, you’re the whole thing. As I said before: bye, Tankie. Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.

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        I love it when they burst into a rant about how easily offended others are when you call them out on ‘banning’ (blocking) a sub for having a meme they didn’t like, lmao.

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          It’s even more hilarious 'cause I got banned from one of the tankie subs for asking the idiot I was arguing with if he got dropped on his head as a baby. They flagged that as “ableism” and kicked me out. LOL. Hypocritical, crybaby bitches.

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            I remember that post. You just started insulting everyone who refuted the stuff you said and then they banned you.

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              That’s the thing, though. Nobody actually refuted anything that I said. They all just made smug, nonsensical retorts that didn’t have any basis in reality, and then they got butthurt when I called them delusional because of it. And yeah - insults were warranted. Because y’all are dumb as hell.

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                First things first, I’m not them. They banned me for my username because of latent tankie homophobia.

                I just looked up that thread though since you could be right and I could be misremembering… nope, there’s a bunch of replies with links to sources and more concrete reasoning than your very own “Russian solders only get a few days of training”.

                There’s even ppl warning you you’ll get banned if you keep using that language and you should tone it down if you wanna stick around.

                Guess it was more important to insult everyone posting links and refuting what you said.

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                  I mean, they banned you for having a funny username, and they banned me for asking if someone was dropped on their head as a baby. They’re crybaby bitches.

                  As for sources, I’m assuming most of that was posted after I was banned and could no longer reply. The only one I remember ignoring completely was one dummy who posted some hour long justification piece by Lukashenko, and like… I’m not about to waste my time listening to a dictator talking shop.

                  As for my penchant for insulting people… yeah. I don’t suffer fools gladly. It’s just not in me. So I amuse myself by telling them precisely what I think of them without couching the language.

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                    It’s not you who didn’t suffer fools in that situation, it was them.

                    You can’t claim not to suffer fools when the power not to suffer them doesn’t lie with you.

                    The way to exercise your power to not suffer fools in that situation would have been to stop posting or stop insulting people, not keep going and get banned. The only exercise of power you can be accused of there is provoking a response you were warned about.

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        I knew that would be twisted but left it. I’ll be more precise: authoritarianism is authoritarianism, but I don’t know enough about their other perspectives to say they’re no good. Perhaps an exchange of ideas may bring two or more perspectives closer. Maybe not.

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          Well, then. Maybe you should spend some time on Tankie spaces and learn what they’re about before just assuming that anybody who doesn’t like them is just being a close-minded asshole.

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              Why are you still here? Didn’t you announce that you were blocking this sub like 4 posts ago? Get out!

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                Because i see how this works. You’re not better than them, you’re doing the same thing they complain about, and so far, that’s what authoritarians do. I forget a lot about tankie things that I don’t understand, because they’re usually banned, shouted down, etc. You keep showing your insecurity in my inbox, have the last word and feel smug. You’re so sure about your ideas, you can’t tolerate me entertaining otherwise. Maybe I’d come to the same conclusion for myself if I can’t let that happen because it’s not possible to hear from them. I used to defend freedom of speech for Nazis too, but I learned. I also learned about psyops of everyone from cliques to governments, including inflation and band wagon.

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                  you’re doing the same thing they complain about, and so far, that’s what authoritarians do

                  I’m sorry; did you just compare some asshole shitposting online with an authoritarian? Are you actually stupid? Do you just not know what authoritarianism is?

                  Maybe I’d come to the same conclusion for myself if I can’t let that happen because it’s not possible to hear from them

                  Yeah. I think you might legitimately be stupid. You know you can go check out any Tankie spaces on Hexbear or Lemmy.ml any time you want, right? Like, a couple instances defederating from them doesn’t in any way silence them. They’re still free to post their garbage opinions on their own instances.

                  I used to defend freedom of speech for Nazis too

                  Ok, yup. You’re legitimately stupid.

                  Why are you still here, again?

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                    Ow oooh owwww I’m going to wither and die because someone on the internet felt threatened by a different perspective and rather than have legit rebuttal attacked like they accuse tankies of doing.

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      You think you’re entitled to our attention?

      There’s only so much time and effort people are willing to spend failing to educate willfully moronic reactionaries.

      If you morons won’t learn, add nothing of value, and insist on polluting lemmy with your nonsense, why would we not just block or defederate you?

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        And yet you’re willing to give attention to hurl epithets.

        Block or defederate me? Rofl. Or communists who checks notes gave us the platform? “You morons” ah yes, thanks for reminding me I’m part of the group you’re insulting, maybe they put their viewpoints on the platform they created? I don’t see you signing up for truth social and doing the same thing; perhaps they’re not as authoritarian in some ways as say… you

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          Absolute word salad.

          Tankies aren’t communists - they’re red-fascist dogs that don’t care about worker enfranchisement.

          You can fuck off now.

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            What? Ofc they are. Are you conflating “authoritarian” with “fascists?”

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              Depends. If a government is oppressive to civil rights and punishes dissent, but they’re a rival/adversary of the US, do they get a pass for that?

              A tankie would say yes, because they’re too blinded by anti American sentiment to think objectively. Generally speaking, a tankie will defend the Chinese government’s censorship, for instance.

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                think the problem is the psychological and political definition of “right wing authoritarian” are very different, but we (including myself) don’t know or forget, and also don’t define our terms at outset. Thanks for your reply. Btw I’ve always been dubious of “enemy of my enemy = friend.”