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    tried

    Though I would argue free speech and freedom of press took a significant hit during the pandemic

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      Okay, how was there an attempt at taking away both of these things? Because I can’t think of any. Also if free press took a hit during the pandemic no one told Fox News because they’ve been spouting their vile lies the entire time lmal

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        Yeah, one major establishment news outlet made it through, great example from you there bud. Meanwhile, the literal inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology had to go on Joe rogan just to make factual claims in a calm, non-sensational manner, and he still nearly lost his job and medical license

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          I think it’s a great example because they’re the single biggest source of conservative misinformation lmao. If the press was being silenced by some left-wing conspiracy don’t you think Fox would have been a major target for them??

          Ignoring the fact that Rogan is an ignorant dumbass who does absolutely no fact checking, did Malone back any of his claims up or were they all just from his mouth? Because Malone was not the “literal inventor” of mRNA vaccines. It was a huge collaborative effort that he played a part in along with hundreds of other researchers over decades. But you already know this cause you do your own research instead of just taking people’s word for it right?

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            I think if there was left wing conspiracy against media they would want to have an establishment right wing media in their pocket to stoke division. However, I don’t think there is a left wing conspiracy against propaganda. I think there is a government wide conspiracy against media and that’s why establishment media continues to exist on both sides of the aisle. That being said, it was primarily leftist sheep who were the ones begging for government to shut down conservative voices or any voices that disagreed even the slightest with the narrative being pushed by left wing medias during the height of the pandemic.

            And yes, almost everything that happens is a collaboration between multiple people. Good on you for figuring that out. That doesn’t mean that there are hierarchical structures within any organization that accomplishes anything. I don’t think anybody believes that Dr. Malone invented the mRNA vaccine by himself in his basement with a toy chem kit from amazon. That doesn’t mean he didn’t spearhead the project

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              Dude, if there was an US government conspiracy against media, then it wouldn’t happen in other countries.

              But the same anti-scientific morons that cry about putting on masks could be found all over the world.

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                You realize the covid response was global right? The same lies were being spread globally. Therefore, the same response to those lies was found globally. Even if you don’t believe in a global cabal of elites running the world from behind the scenes, even if didn’t think leaders from all countries were communicating with each other about covid response (and many other things), you should at least be able to see that with your own two eyes

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              it was primarily leftist sheep who were the ones begging for government to shut down conservative voices or any voices that disagreed even the slightest with the narrative being pushed by left wing medias during the height of the pandemic.

              Thats because conservatives were and still are actively spreading lies!! Fucking of course we want that shit to stop.

              I don’t think anybody believes that Dr. Malone invented the mRNA vaccine by himself in his basement with a toy chem kit from amazon

              Lmao He sure as fuck believes it (his Twitter profile even stated that he invented it when he was 28 lmao), and I think you did too until I called you out. Why else would you have called him the “literal inventor” of mRNA technology? All he did was help prove that it was possible, by the way. There’s been so much more R&D since then that it’s basically different technology now. What you’re saying is like if the inventor of the wheel claimed that they invented cars. Go look up what his past coworkers have to say about him! One of them stated his brilliance, but also added that he’s extremely stubborn and refuses to budge on things he perceives as correct even when shown differently. He’s a just a narcissist.

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                Lmao, the left are the ones spreading lies, yet you don’t hear conservatives calling for the dismantling of free speech

                As for Dr. Malone, my whole argument is just that he spearheaded the invention of mRNA tech so when he comes out and says that we should slow down on the roll out of the covid vax, I don’t think that should be treated as some massive conspiracy theory

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      I saw plenty of jackasses using their free speech to spread misinformation, like the vaccines not working and the mask not being necessary.

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        Except that’s not true at all and if you were capable of getting out of your own echo chamber you would realize that. The only way the masks would have had any real effect is of we were all running around wearing N95s, but we weren’t. People were running around in cloth masks because its easier to make fashion statements out of them. And natural immunity has been shown multiple times to give far better immunity than the vax. Even early on, studies coming out of Israel and Ireland showed that