Another step for animals rights!

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    10 months ago

    Just remember it’s always about the profits.

    Just like how they stopped selling chargers for the sake of reducing e-waste. Even though they can save on shipping weights and charge extra for 1st party chargers.

    Now is it worse for the environment to produce extra chargers and cables? Or the secondary purchases, shipping, and manufacturing? I can’t tell you the actual impact.

    Oh and remember the absolute trash 1A/5V charging bricks they included for the longest time ever? They hardly even pushed out 18w bricks before they nixed the entire included charger crap.

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    Leather is a byproduct of the beef industry.

    At no point will any fewer cattle be ‘processed’ for meat because of this decision.

    What does change is the utility ratio of the beasts. Well use less of each beast making the tragedy of their death more meaningless.

    Leather is far more environmentally friendly than plastics, with a small caveat for the tanning process’ chemicals, and emissions from the beasts themselves (though that’s attributable to beef production.)

    Leather doesn’t degrade into micro plastics.

    So unless Apple is also reducing its beef consumption* by the equivalent amount it’s pointless.

    * yes, it’ll be non-zero.

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      10 months ago

      This is wrong in so many ways.

      Making cows(not beasts) less viable to grow because they are more expensive because the farmers aren’t getting money for their other body parts is a win!

      Less leather bought = more expensive cows = less people able to afford cows = less cows murdered.

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      10 months ago

      “Yes I am causing pain and suffering ring but lol idc” is a totally normal thing to say.

      Can you name another place where it’s ethical to willingly cause harm to another?

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          Sure, but no one is saying they do. Pigs don’t deserve the right to vote and cows don’t deserve the right to a public education.

          But I am asking why its okay to harm them? If you cut them, they bleed, scream, flee, possibly attack in retaliation. All the same responses humans have. It’s reasonable to assume animals feel pain similar to humans.

          Is the only reason you don’t harm other humans is because the government says those other people have rights? Or is there perhaps an ethical reason in which why that would be wrong?

          What situations exactly are okay to cause pain in another for your own pleasure?

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            10 months ago

            Another step for animals rights!

            —OP

            Sure, but no one is saying they do.

            Animal rights do not exist.

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              10 months ago

              Kinda weird that you are only saying the same thing over and over whole ignoring questions. But allright, you do you.

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              10 months ago

              Human rights don’t exist either. These are legal and philosophical concepts that we decide on, not fundamental constants.

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      10 months ago

      Apple claimed this was for environmental reasons, not animal rights reasons.

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        10 months ago

        It’s more enshittification. Making it cheaper and worse and telling everyone it’s an upgrade.

        OP is editorializing that it’s for vegan ethics.

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            10 months ago

            Leather lasts a lot longer and personally I think it feels better. But the fake leathers often fall apart really quickly and can’t be cared for like leather. A maintained leather item can last centuries, not that an accessory would last very long but faux leather crumbles pretty quickly

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          10 months ago

          I would say it’s a safe guess they are not, as it’s pretty obvious they were asking you because you said “animals have no rights”. Which implies that you are okay with it and you also decided not to refute it.

          I’m not convinced you even believe anything you type though, as your comments all scream “troll child”.