• Pat12@lemmy.world
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    Could you expand on “get govt permission for everything”? I’m from Germany, and I honestly can’t remember when I last got “government permission”, if ever. Maybe my driver’s license?

    in the UK it seems there’s a regulation for everything and/or you need to get a license for everything, i’ve even seem memes like “oi bruv have you got a loicense for that”

    for example, tv license, getting a dog license, not selling ibuprofen in large quantities (regulation), not selling rubbing alcohol (regulation), the restriction on kitchen knives, butter knives being considered an “offensive weapon”

    https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1356162-count-dankulas-hate-speech-trial

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      Hm, I guess I can see some of that?

      tv license

      That is indeed strange. Here it’s not a license, just a tax that’s not really a tax.

      getting a dog license

      Only in Northern Ireland.

      not selling ibuprofen in large quantities (regulation)

      That’s not a government license, it’s a prescription. Don’t most countries have something similar, where you can’t just buy any medicine you want?

      not selling rubbing alcohol (regulation)

      I can go on Amazon.co.uk right now and buy some. Could you link the regulation preventing sales?

      the restriction on kitchen knives

      You mean not being allowed to carry them around in public for no reason? Or not selling them to people under 18?

      butter knives being considered an “offensive weapon”

      Okay, but what does that have to do with getting government permission?

      Only one of those things is kind of a “government permission”. Everything else is not regulation for which you need government permission.

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        Think you need a dog license in Germany too iirc. To be fair, they have the best behaved dogs I’ve met while traveling as a result though.

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          It depends on the state. There is no general “dog license”, but some states require you to take a test in order to own more dangerous breeds.

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        ibuprofen is not a prescription medicine, it’s over the counter. you can get 2 packs x 500 in costco in the US. (source)

        rubbing alcohol (when i was there at least) was not readily available, i think the govt regulated it because they didn’t want people to get drunk or something.

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          ibuprofen is not a prescription medicine, it’s over the counter. you can get 2 packs x 500 in costco in the US. (source)

          I thought we were talking about the UK? Why does it matter whether it’s prescription in the US?

          rubbing alcohol (when i was there at least) was not readily available, i think the govt regulated it because they didn’t want people to get drunk or something.

          I’d need to see a source, this seems like wild speculation. Seems pretty unlikely that they banned it and lifted the ban without this being front and centre when looking it up. Couldn’t it have been the whole COVID craze which just meant it was sold out?

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            I thought we were talking about the UK? Why does it matter whether it’s prescription in the US?

            the question is asking what’s something that americans/europeans do that makes no sense to you. the fact that i can’t get a big pack of ibuprofen like i can in the US doens’t make sense to me

            it wasn’t COVID, this was before COVID

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              It’s because people try to kill themselves by taking lots of ibuprofen and it’s both a bad way to go and a bad way to survive. Making it harder to access large amounts has been shown to reduce the amount of suicide attempts (as often actual attempts are somewhat impulsive.)

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                well sure, lots of people commit suicide by hanging themself but that doesn’t stop us planting trees or building bridges, i consider the uk way to be overly cautious, for the majority of people ibuprofen is not a problem and i think it’s frustrating to just get little amounts

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                  I do t understand why you’d need easy access to buy 500 at a time of something you shouldn’t take more than 8 a day or for more than three days at a time without consulting a Dr and now I just realised what this is about…

                  In the UK we just see the Dr if we’re in pain for more than three days because our system isn’t evil.

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                    ? because you always need ibuprofen for something, it’s cheaper to buy in bulk, and it’s more conveneint to have it laying around already than having to go and get some when you need it already

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              the question is asking what’s something that americans/europeans do that makes no sense to you. the fact that i can’t get a big pack of ibuprofen like i can in the US doens’t make sense to me

              There’s multiple reasons:

              • Medicine goes bad after some time, and most people don’t store it properly. This can lead to less or more effective doses than expected, which is obviously really bad.

              • Ibuprofen is pretty bad for you if you take it with any kind of regularity.

              • It’s way easier to fuck yourself up permanently with larger doses. We know that e.g. having a gun around increases the likelihood of successful suicide dramatically. Having a large amount of pills lying around is similarly dangerous, especially considering how bad even proper usage would be.

              But is anything stopping you from getting multiple smaller packs?

              it wasn’t COVID, this was before COVID

              As I said, I’d need to see some kind of source.