Title says it all.

I am a huge 40k fan and I know how problematic 40k is with its portrayal of endless war and facism. Comrade @relay@lemmygrad.ml has put it best:

Maybe all of the 40k factions are fascist and that universe’s lore has no dialectic of class struggle and is to violent to be realistic, thus serves as part of the superstructure for fascism.

it reinforces the idea that the conflict between tribes will always supercede the conflict between classes. It’s wrong on so many levels.

And yet I can’t hate it. I have a hard time taking 40k serious and seeing it as more than a silly boardgame with cool minis and (deliciously) stupid lore.

Same with B99. I know that the show is horrid copacanda, I know that shows like this prevent people from seeing pigs as the pigs they are because “funny cop show portraits them as silly and relatable.” But I still like the show a lot. I like the characters and just pretend that it plays in a parallel universe were cops aren’t the worst.

I just sort of suppress any critical thoughts and take those things at face value without thinking about what they imply. It’s just very hard to find alternatives.

So yeah I feel terrible for finding enjoyment in this stuff even though I know I shouldn’t. Can anyone relate or do you perhaps have similar feelings towards other franchises?

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    1 year ago

    trying to portray Tau as communist

    Pretty sure that was just fanbase memes, GW was too busy with shitty, half-baked Asian stereotypes. Meanwhile Gav Thorpe, one of the most prominent Black Library authors, claimed in a reddit logo AMA that Tau were “based on NATO”. Which is a separate layer of hilarious

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      Nice. Didn’t know about that. Are we sure he meant it in a based way?

      The whole “that’s something vaguely Asian and tOtAlItArIaN” thing with the Tau was always a part of that for me though. I mean, China and DPRK’ve been the main commie boogeymen since USSR collapsed. That’s probably why the meme sprung up to begin with.

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        Are we sure he meant it in a based way?

        I’ll try to find the actual thread or screenshots. But he probably did not tbh. Agreed with the rest

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        1 year ago

        Lmao, that thread. I’ll try to find the thread with Gav, see what was said verbatim.

        Incidentally, I once saw a fan (mod of a 40k RP server) claim “Imperium are the Nazis, and Chaos are the Jews”, and then get mad and throw a tantrum, when people pointed out comparing victims of Holocaust to a faction that practices all sorts of monstrous rituals and specifically seeks to destroy reality is, you know, not a good look. But that’s fans, and fans are silly