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    10 months ago

    I don’t trust a 3d printed gun, why would I trust a 3d printed car? But if I could make a car myself, I definitely would, even if I had to pirate the designs.

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      3d printed firearms have transformed into a whole cottage industry with all sorts of variations. The ones that are safest are essentially just stocks capable of holding the parts of a firearm. The ones that are completely 3d printed are still pretty sketchy and illegal to sell

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        Any firearm that you, a private citizen, manufacture, is illegal to sell.

        You are not a licensed firearm distributor.

        But, at least in most of the US, it is perfectly legal to manufacture them for your own use. You just can’t sell them.

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          You can sell homemade firearms you made for personal use and later decided to get rid of.

          You cannot manufacture them for the purpose of sale, however.

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              Why? What’s wrong with selling a gun you have made at home? It’s still subject to applicable law on private party transfers just like any other firearm.

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              IIRC, it depends on state law too. Some states permit local sales, feds would stomp on you if you sold to a non-resident.

              Probably best to avoid the selling part altogether. Ruby Ridge and all that.

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          that’s true. I should have specified that a lot of the purchasable (fully and unquestionably in the right) stuff just sell CAD files for 3d printed parts, or print the parts for you. The more questionable ones sell ghost gun kits

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            It is illegal for them to print the guns for you (unless they have their FFL; and Manufacturers license; and they NICs check you, and engrave a serial number, company name, and location of manufacture in accordance with ATF rules.) And the “ghost gun kits” are 80% complete lowers, which you have to mill the remaining bits yourself or else it is subject to all the above rules as well.

            They can sell the .stl files though, or freely offer them.

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      The thing people forget is that 3d printing doesn’t just enable the direct manufacturing of parts, it also enables the manufacturing of tooling for parts that would never have been manufacturable at home otherwise.

      For example, you can rifle a metal tube and form a chamber using electro etching and printed tooling. Or, you can make tooling to make magazine springs

      The key point to be made here is that a fully plastic gun is sketchy but 3d printing has absolutely transformed the ability to make reliable and effective firearms at home without any off the shelf firearm parts

      The same type of thing is happening in the car hobbyist world. We aren’t printing cars but people are using prints to make molds, form sheet metal, align parts for weldments and manufacture low stress plastic parts like intake manifolds.

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      3d printing has come a long way, both in materials and quality. especially as you step away from FDM or resin printers. I certainly wouldn’t trust a rando facebook marketplace printer who bought a creality to make a quick buck… but I would trust my own prints- mostly because I know what the materials are, and know I’ll check for good print quality. reality is, though, that about the most you can print right now is a half baked golf cart chasis. if you want it to be safe… you’re going to have to add a lot to it, and at that point, you might as well just buy a damn car or something.