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Years after my R.E. teacher said, “I will never fall lower than into God’s hands,” I finally came up with the retort, “Let’s go on the roof and check.”

  • cmbabul@lemmy.world
    711·
    9 个月前

    If Christians were ever at any point actually real about following the teachings of their savior they would do what he said, sell their shit and go out into the world teaching God’s love by helping others not preaching at at people about their sin. It’s literally the entire point of his message.

    But they don’t and really never have

    • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      9 个月前

      Well they’re very into fantasies of sending people to hell, which is a major obsession of Jesus.

      But really they worship a) a book b) Paul. Jesus is a mascot, nobody gives a shit about the beatitudes, even less about not casting the first stone.

      Kind of like Alabama football, yeah there’s an elephant with an A on his shirt, but the actual messiah is Nick Saban.

    • zzzz@lemmy.world
      218·
      9 个月前

      I don’t think that’s fair. Certainly some do. They’re not the ones that make the most noise, however.

      • cmbabul@lemmy.world
        252·
        9 个月前

        If you can find me a Christian, any Christian that has sold all their possessions, given the money to the poor, and then lived an austere life of charity I’ll believe it. But I grew up a super devout Christian in the Deep South and lived there for 35 years total. I’ve yet to meet a single person that’s actually doing the religion as defined by its central figure.

        I’m not saying every Christian is a raging asshole, that would be an absurd claim there are plenty of decent people that are Christian’s. I’m saying not a one is actually living a Christ-like life even the decent ones aren’t giving everything away like commanded by Jesus himself

        • Enigma@sh.itjust.works
          English
          123·
          9 个月前

          I mean, missionaries. My sister was one for over a decade and during those years she owned a backpack with some clothes and toiletries and that was all. She received monetary donations that she used to travel, stayed with families in the towns she visited, etc.

          You’re not going to see that in the US (especially the Deep South) or really any developed nation because churches are already established. But you will see it often in developing nations where the “message needs to be spread”.

          My sister is annoying as hell with a holier than thou attitude. Or at least to me because every time I try to talk to her the conversation somehow turns to god and after also being raised as a devout Christian, fuck that bullshit.

          And remember the Deep South has 2 denominations, evangelical and baptist, and both of those are fucking selfish fire and brimstone denominations.

          • cmbabul@lemmy.world
            62·
            9 个月前

            Fair enough, and good for your sister, and while what she did is admirable I still say the fact that she ever ‘came back’ from doing that means she’s stopped following that command. Not judging her, I get it, but Jesus literally commanded his followers to give up their lives and follow him. Which means it’s not a temporary commitment.

            I actually have a few friends that became missionaries and lived off donations. In Italy, because they were baptists(who are evangelical by the way, that’s the particular tradition I was raised in, they are very very into spreading the gospel through missions in the SBC) and they needed to go save the heathen Catholics.

            I’m not trying to say your sister is a shitty person or anything. But mission work in my experience is usually a circlejerk where they are more concerned with conversion and preaching than actually helping people.

        • Batman@lemmy.ca
          7·
          9 个月前

          Particularly from the south I met a man in Haiti which had sold all of his belongings, working for Baptist Global Relief. Worked all day every day building homes for people along side locals, preaching on Sundays. A personal inspiration to me, to this day.

          I had another example I knew in Russia but my post was becoming a “wall of text”.

          Perhaps you are experiencing a sampling bias by looking in cushy churches?

          • cmbabul@lemmy.world
            41·
            9 个月前

            There are certainly some cushy churches and Christian orgs in my experience, but not exclusively.

            And while that guy sounds great, I’m still gonna be skeptical of anyone that spends anytime preaching rather than just living by example as Jesus commanded(‘and I will know you by your fruits’ something to that effect), which he otherwise sounds like he does. Glad you got something positive out of it. And I’m glad he’s helping people

            But the fact that those are two extreme anecdotal examples kind of proves my point. It’s exceedingly rare to find anyone in the religion that actually does ‘walk the walk’. The vast majority of Christians have no interest or understanding of doing what was commanded of them. And because their belief alone confers forgiveness they are free to continue living however they wish. It’s all very convenient

        • beteljuice@lemmy.ml
          61·
          9 个月前

          No one is living 100% to ideological perfection. It’s a spectrum. Some are a lot closer than others. I’ve definitely met some ascetic non-judgemental types.