• Throwaway@lemm.eeOP
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    They have upwards of 60,000 illegals in their care.

    60,000 * 300 * 365 is 6,570,000,000 dollars. Even if families get the same room, thats still well over a billion dollars. Thats just in NYC.

    I kinda feel bad for them, even if they did want to be a santuary city despite the warnings.

    The NYPost backs my math up. https://nypost.com/2023/09/25/nyc-now-preparing-to-spend-staggering-extra-1b-on-hotels-alone-to-shelter-migrants-for-three-more-years/

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      The $300 average includes food and other services not normally included in a typical hotel rate. Also, the city can opt out of any of its individual contracts at any time if the migrant population in need of shelter reduces.

      This is not the same as housing the homeless, who often will need some form of housing and care from the city/state for their entire lives due to mental illness and/or disability. This is an investment in a future American workforce. Most of these people came here to work.

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        All true, but importing cheap labor is not a good thing for workers.

        Also, I still think 300 is quite high, even if food is included.

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          I mean, fast food companies and restaurants are hiring children so I think more people in the workforce is a good thing.

          Also, most Americans don’t want to pick vegetables in the field or clean bathroom stalls. These people are willing to do the dirty jobs that are necessary for our current way of life.

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            1 year ago

            I submitted applications to all restoraunts around me and never heard back. Just lies.

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              I’m sorry you’re struggling and I’m not going to debate your job search with you without knowing where you looked and what positions you applied for. It also sounds like I’m not going to convince you no matter what I say.

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            1 year ago

            They hire children because they’re cheap and abusable. They need to pay more.

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              That sounds like an abuse of power by the employer. I would rather adults work those jobs.

              If the business can’t afford to pay adults a livable wage the way they operate, it doesn’t sound like they should be in business.

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            That’s the problem. There are many Americans who can pick vegetables but lack the work ethic to pick vegetables. We shouldn’t import people because other people are lazy.

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              Unemployment is at 3.8%, which is pretty good as most economist say < 5% is the bar for a healthy economy. So I would say it’s not that people are lazy, it’s that new industries that provide more economic opportunities appear.

              Also, short of economic depression, I’m not sure how you convince lazy people to not be lazy.

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                Also, short of economic depression, I’m not sure how you convince lazy people to not be lazy.

                The USSR’s solution was forced work.

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                Unemployment is a fickle number. If somebody is not looking for work, they don’t count.

                I always joke with my GF when we pay to pick vegetables. We are paying to do work that people won’t do to get paid.

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                  Yup. The irony of paying to pick apples is not lost on me. But to your point, if someone’s not looking for work, they don’t get government assistance (barring a disability) and probably don’t need to work the jobs thes migrants are going to fill.

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                    There are many parents complaining their kids can’t find jobs. The jobs are there. They just don’t want to do the work.

                    We have evolved into an entitled society who won’t work hard anymore.

                    It’s why we have a shortage. Everyone thinks they’re entitled to a high paying job with no experience.