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          Troops and some others will work without collecting paychecks. Others will not work and get back pay for all the time they missed when we come back to work. So… as long as it doesn’t last more than a week or two and it will just feel like a paid vacation to some of us.

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    Republicans are going to try to blame Biden for this. Not that they care about facts or reality, but two things to remember:

    1. They rejected the BIPARTISAN Senate solution to this current shutdown.

    2. The last government shutdown was the longest in our country’s, when Trump was President, and Republicans controlled the Senate. Trump was very happy to shut down the government. He was having a temper tantrum because he couldn’t get funding for his idiotic border wall.

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    Taking bets now: How long before the Democrats lose their nerve and give Republicans what they want just to end the shutdown?

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        they may need to make concessions to the Democrats

        This feels like the only way forward, but that would mean Mccarthy would have to be bipartisan and I don’t see that happening, just as much as I don’t see the far right GOP conceding

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      They didn’t last time.

      Trump and the Senate Republicans caused the longest shutdown in history. They did it because Trump was having a temper tantrum over the fact that Democrats refuse to fund his idiotic border wall.

      I don’t see a wall. Do you?

      No. It’s because the Democrats held their ground.

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      It’s not even the Dems, Republicans are doing this to themselves. Dems have the upper hand here.

      After reading that again. Fuck, your probably right…

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      Would a border wall get Democrat votes? No. Probably not get some Republicans. If the Republicans presented a clean bill, then I think you could win your bet.

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        Democrats cave when Republicans shut down the government. Stop pretending the past 30 years didn’t happen.

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          They didn’t the last 4 that happened under Trump.

          That’s right. 4 government shutdowns happened under the orange turd.

          They won’t cave. They will watch them splinter into two camps and work with the moderate ones and get the senate one passed with a new speaker.

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          Democrats do not bite on poison pills. So far that’s the only thing McCarthy has put on the floor and even his own caucus won’t vote for them.

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    I feel bad for these people and the families that depend on them. Willing and able to work but not allowed is a bad situation to be forced into.

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    Damn am I just now paying attention or has the government been shut down almost every year since Trump came into office?

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      No they can usually pass a continued resolution, which extends current funding levels for a specified amount of time. This usually gives them enough time to actually figure something out.

      Right now is different though. There is so much infighting in the GOP that the far right wingers are holding the House hostage. They put forth a bill today (or yesterday? ) that 20 of the GOP switched sides just to make it fail (not that it would have made it through the senate and Biden threaten veto at it anyway). Theyre wasting time, and it seems the extreme rights in the GOP aren’t cooperating because they want a shutdown.

      McCarthy has no control. He made too many concessions to become speaker, and now a vocal minority is essentially in control

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      2 million of those are military. Think they make enough money to survive a couple of weeks do you?

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        plenty of entry level jobs in all kinds of fields in the civilian sector as well… young GS1 accountants and IT professionals with student loan debt gotta eat too…

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      You know that some of those people are still living paycheck to paycheck and are going to be in some hardships?

      Sure. They can file for relief from the state and then pay it back later, but uncertainty like that is still horrible. And the time it takes to receive those loans can also cause issues like being late on mortgages.

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      Conveniently being a dumbass for down votes

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        Some people still do. My coworkers wife at the EPA will get back pay. The people who really lose out are the contractors