The mother of Shani Louk, a 22-year-old German national believed to have been kidnapped by Hamas fighters during the militant group’s surprise attack on Israel on Saturday, said on Tuesday that her daughter is alive.

Louk, a tattoo artist, was attending the Tribe of Nova music festival in the plains of the Negev Desert near Urim, close to the Gaza Strip, on Saturday when Hamas fighters stormed the event. She’s believed to have been seized by the militants and paraded through the streets in the back of a pick-up.

On Tuesday, Louk’s family announced they had proof that Louk—who grew up in Israel—was alive. German news website Blick reported that her mother said she was in a hospital in Gaza with serious head injuries.

“We now have more information that Shani is alive,” her mother told television channel NTV, adding she received the information from unnamed Palestinian sources.

The mother added that Louk is seriously injured, and asked the German government for help and quick action.

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    Israel is doing settler terrorism but I don’t see anyone accusing them of rape. So the distinction you’re making is about them being Muslim

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      Actually…

      The IDF does have a rape problem.

      Soldiers who rape Palestinian civilians are theoretically punished, but enforcement can be hit or miss.

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      If white supremacists launched an attack and kidnapped people, then I wouldn’t be calling racism over rape accusations.

      These people are animals because of their actions, not their skin colour.

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          Yep, animals.

          Same as those behind the Tulsa race massacre.

          If you’re only hearing “whistles” then you need to get your hearing checked so you can actually listen to the conversation.

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              You are being way too sensitive to the fact that they’re Muslim and not the fact that they’re terrorists. People are upset that the terrorist killed and raped people.

              Yoskovich managed to survive, but a report from Alerta News 24 contains allegations that some women were raped in the rave area of the festival, next to the corpses of their friends.

              These are the articles that people are referencing about the rape allegations. This seems to be coming from somebody who was at the festival and survived. Were you at the festival and survived and have a different first-hand take?

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                I already pointed out that Israel is doing terrorism too. But no one is accusing Israel of mass unconfirmed rapes.

                “Muslims are rapists” is a racist dog whistle.

                I’m not “sensitive”, I’ve heard this garbage before.

                I am not denying that Hamas has ever committed rape.

                But until there is any kind of reliable 3rd hand reporting people should not just assume it happened.

                No, playing the telephone game is not evidence, it’s literally propaganda.

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                  I didn’t see anyone in the above comments saying Muslims are rapist. Obviously deeming an entire group of people to be rapist is not only wrong but blatantly racist. As far as I was reading people were just talking about the reports coming out from the festival attack.

                  I believe people were talking about the reports coming out from first hand accounts of survivors. If you want to dispute those claims that’s fine but you shouldn’t go around calling everybody racist because they are discussing the news that they read. I would try to just warn people to be careful of what they are reading because there is going to be a lot of misinformation and fog of war going on.

                  I get getting angry though I’m sure you have had to deal with some nasty people and comments all your life and that just isn’t right. This is a really touchy and controversial topic and it’s easy for conversations to turn into yelling.

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                    I believe people were talking about the reports coming out from first hand accounts of survivors.

                    “First hand reports” that are only being reported by Israeli state media.

                    I didn’t see anyone in the above comments saying Muslims are rapist.

                    Yeah no one is gonna come out and say it like that. I’m telling people to check themselves and many people are showing themselves to be acting in bad faith. If that’s not you then congrats I’m not calling you racist.

                    If you want to dispute those claims that’s fine but you shouldn’t go around calling everybody racist because they are discussing the news that they read.

                    Yeah please don’t misrepresent me. I’m not calling people racist for discussing what they read. I’m very happy to have a conversation about it, however the conversation starts and ends with “there is no evidence of this being reported by any reliable 3rd party”

                    I get getting angry though I’m sure you have had to deal with some nasty people and comments all your life and that just isn’t right. This is a really touchy and controversial topic and it’s easy for conversations to turn into yelling.

                    I’m not angry but I’m also not gonna sit here and give anyone the benefit of the doubt more than once. Notice how I’m not calling you racist? That’s cuz you’re not saying anything racist.

                    PS: I am also not claiming everyone I’ve blocked today has been racist. There was def one person I didn’t even give the chance before I blocked them. Some I block for low quality/dishonesty

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      No the distinction is there is evidence that suggested these Hamas soldier raped people.

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        Then post it! It’s been 5 hours. What are you waiting for?

        Give me one reputable news publication that claims to have confirmed this from a victim and not just heard about it second hand

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          Im not posting the video here as it breaks community rules. It is easy to find and it clearly looks like her.

          You might have to wake the fuck up and accept that some of the soldiers in Hamas are terrible people capable of terrible things.

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            It is easy to find and it clearly looks like her.

            For like the 5th time that isn’t “evidence” of her being dead and raped. But you know that. You’re being dishonest. Blocked