• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    My thoughts are that the UN resolution establishing Israel clearly calls for the necessary actions to occur to allow for Eretz Israel which unfortunately required the relocation of some residents.

    I think Andrew Jackson said something to the same effect while negotiating with Cherokee Nation.

    That’s entirely different from the removal of Jews from the surrounding Arab Nations, who had no such mandate from the United Nations.

    Can you remind me how many deciding votes the Arab Nations had in the UN when Eretz Israel was established?

    as soon as Israel was established they were attacked

    That’s a very myopic view of history, as it skips over all five Aliyahs, the Arab Revolt of '36, and half a decade of Haganah guerrilla activity throughout the Palestinian Mandate during the 1940s against the British military. These domestic insurgencies - some of which even included inter-Zionist infighting - ran straight up to the day of Independence as part of the '47-'48 Palestine Civil War (a conflict that had been on-and-off since 1920). To claim Israel was immediately attacked, you’d have to limit your historical perception to the brief ceasefire from April to May of '48, and conveniently ignore the Nakba which had begun the prior year.

    Your reference to the people of the region also being semitic is either out of ignorance or again, Antisemitism because the origins of that phrase have a very very clear anti-semitic history.

    So using the term “semitic” is itself anti-Semitic?

    • Jews are from Israel and have a right of return

    • Actually, native Palestinians aren’t really Semitic in origin

    Absolutely incoherent. This feels like I’m trying to explain to a Nazi where the term “Aryan” comes from.

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      1 year ago

      So you’re taking issue with Israel following the law set out for them. Yet I’ve yet to see you take issue with the ongoing hostage situation or the civilian attack the other week, so again your hypocrisy exposes itself.

      You’re going to sit there and claim Arabs didn’t massacre Jewish villages and towns for decades? Sfat got wiped out how many times? Talk about cherry picking. This is a joke, tantamount to saying it’s ok for Arabs to attack Jewish settlements… sure. If that’s how you want to roll, you’re okay with the West Bank situation then. Or are you again a hypocrite?

      The manner in which you’re using the term, along with the context and your established position of being a bigot makes your use of that term Anti Semitic.

      Palestinians aren’t from Judea, they are from the Arabian peninsula. I can send you a map if you need. They’re welcome to return there.

      You’ve quite often reminded me of the Sartre quote ’ Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies.’ But your latest reply is so devoid of reality, it’s become comical. It’s comforting to know that you’re in the vast minority globally, right along with the Q groups, and Israel will continue to have the support of the world in the face of terrorism and rising Anti Semitism such as what you’re pushing.

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        So you’re taking issue with Israel following the law set out for them.

        Absent enfranchisement, this isn’t civil law it is military dictatorship.

        You’re going to sit there and claim Arabs didn’t massacre Jewish villages and towns for decades?

        I’m going to sit here and claim the Israelis gave as good as they got in what amounted to an extension of the World Wars in Arab territory. And that these purges were as much a result of the Nakba and the Six Day War as any domestic policy. Absent the slaughter of Arabs by an invading European force, and the insidious anti-Semitic propaganda of Henry Ford, you would not have seen segregationist policies sweeping the Middle East like they had swept Europe decades before.

        Palestinians aren’t from Judea, they are from the Arabian peninsula.

        Might as well claim Jews aren’t from Judea, they’re from Brooklyn.

        Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies

        Rubber glue etc.