If this aint a cassus belli I dont know what it is.
In any case any organization that starts a war like that needs to be destroyed. There is no other way. If hammas isnt destroyed they wont hesitate to kill 3000 in a few years.
So many people seem to have no ability to retain memories. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2014., uses that time to rearm and relaunch another strike on Israel while ceasefire is still going on. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2023., this time Israel refuses and everyone goes…aaaah murderers. What the actual fuck people?
I didn’t say Hamas are good guys. But the idea that Hamas doesn’t want peace or that peace with Hamas is impossible is now nothing more than a bold-faced Israeli lie.
They would if it would get other Arab nations into the war and result in the destruction of Israel.
The problem a lot of people seem to have with this conflict is they want it to be very simple, Palestine existing in a vacuum where they’re just trying to live normal lives… That’s not really the ground reality, it’s a nexus of complex bullshit with crazy influences from all sides and centuries long power struggles.
It sucks for people living there but it’s not a reality we can hand wave away
They’re a violent resistance group. Doesn’t mean they wanna continue fighting indefinitely. Not defending the murder of civilians, but the implication that they don’t want peace is wrong.
Read their fundamental documents. Hamas wants peace and a sovereign Palestinian state where Jews and Arabs can thrive peacefully among each other. Unfortunately the Zionist Entity has a different meaning of peace where all Palestinians regardless of being Muslims, Christians or Jews are ethnically cleansed and their lands settled by White Settlers.
Islamic supporters have utilized a version stating “Palestine is Islamic from the river to the sea”, with certain Islamic scholars have declared the Mahdi - a redemptive apocalyptic figure central to Islamic eschatology - will declare “Jerusalem is Arab Muslim, and Palestine — all of it, from the river to the sea — is Arab Muslim.”[22] [23]
They literally are not. Sorry that reality doesn’t match your worldview.
Israel has offered to give significant land their settlements currently exist on in hopes of a 2 state solution, and Palestinian leadership continually tells them to get fucked.
Anyone know what Hamas says? Do they say they want peace between them and Israel?
No they think Israel needs to be obliterated
That’s the biggest barrier to peace then. The whole article’s a waste of time without that bit.
They want illegal Israel settler to fuck off and respect the green line and not oppress them or something.
Ohh wait, that’s not Hamas, that’s Fatah of Palestine Authority, which Israel in respond is to oppress them even harder.
Yes, actually. They changed their charter in 2017 to reflect that.
They want peace, so they invaded Israel and murdered 1,000 people.
Makes sense
If this aint a cassus belli I dont know what it is.
In any case any organization that starts a war like that needs to be destroyed. There is no other way. If hammas isnt destroyed they wont hesitate to kill 3000 in a few years.
So many people seem to have no ability to retain memories. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2014., uses that time to rearm and relaunch another strike on Israel while ceasefire is still going on. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2023., this time Israel refuses and everyone goes…aaaah murderers. What the actual fuck people?
Did Israel stop destroying Palestinian homes after 2014?
Did the ceasefire include lifting the blockade? If no then it’s meaningless.
This observation is almost meaningless. No one is defending Hamas.
This person was literally saying that Hamas is seeking peace.
Did you like, not read the comments or what’s up?
I didn’t say Hamas are good guys. But the idea that Hamas doesn’t want peace or that peace with Hamas is impossible is now nothing more than a bold-faced Israeli lie.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1717359090576322586?t=JHYmtvwLySR9VnQ0pNCeQQ&s=19
Plus you know the 1500 people they murdered and 125,000 they displaced.
Hamas doesn’t want peace. Hamas was genocide against Israel.
Peace with Hamas is literally impossible. They are a terror organization pretending to be a government.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099
When did Hamas displace people?
Also of course Hamas doesn’t want Israel to launch a large-scale operation into the Gaza strip. Nobody with two brain cells does.
No, Hamas wants genocide against Israelis and to set up a Muslim caliphate.
They steal money from the Palestinian people. They’re thieves, murderers, and rapists, and view all Palestinians as expendable
They would if it would get other Arab nations into the war and result in the destruction of Israel.
The problem a lot of people seem to have with this conflict is they want it to be very simple, Palestine existing in a vacuum where they’re just trying to live normal lives… That’s not really the ground reality, it’s a nexus of complex bullshit with crazy influences from all sides and centuries long power struggles.
It sucks for people living there but it’s not a reality we can hand wave away
They’re a violent resistance group. Doesn’t mean they wanna continue fighting indefinitely. Not defending the murder of civilians, but the implication that they don’t want peace is wrong.
That’s an absurd statement.
By the same reasoning, the Nazis wanted peace.
Read their fundamental documents. Hamas wants peace and a sovereign Palestinian state where Jews and Arabs can thrive peacefully among each other. Unfortunately the Zionist Entity has a different meaning of peace where all Palestinians regardless of being Muslims, Christians or Jews are ethnically cleansed and their lands settled by White Settlers.
You mean the documents where they call for murdering all the Jews “from the river to the sea”?
Does that sentence contain any call for murder? No.
Israel wanted to be Israel from the river the sea but you don’t see people batting an eye over that.
Hamas literally just murdered, raped, and kidnapped a shitload of people. That’s what started this whole series of events.
So yes, yes it does contain a call for murder.
Hamas isn’t even in the fucking sentence.
This is reflected in Hamas’s charters.
Yep, confirmed trolling.
“Am I out of touch? No the guy with citations must be trolling”
Oh yeah “Arab nation from the river to the sea” sounds very peaceful and totally not like genocide.
Does “Israel from the river to the sea” not sound genocidal then?
Nobody is calling for that
What do you think settlers are doing? Aren’t they trying to take over Palestinian areas?
No
Lol okay.
They literally are not. Sorry that reality doesn’t match your worldview.
Israel has offered to give significant land their settlements currently exist on in hopes of a 2 state solution, and Palestinian leadership continually tells them to get fucked.
That part of their charter implies Islamic government is the ONLY way for peace in the region. Islam also has rules for those who don’t convert.
Edit: to be clear their laws for those who don’t convert are dogshit.
You can pretend what you want. They clarified it themselves. It means they want to cleanse the land of all Jews.
I’m not pretending, their laws for non Muslims are shit.
There are, yeah, and they’re pretty tolerant of other religions (especially Judaism and Christianity).
They aren’t tolerant of other religions, the fact they even have rules for non Muslims is telling.