• dangblingus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Interesting to me, that Israel, the country that is most well known for cyber security and big tough guys who are good at martial arts, can’t find random Hamas insurgents and take them out with precision strikes. No, it has to be artillery.

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      That’s because the “big tough guys who are good at martial arts” are little more than hype and doesn’t mean all that much in a military context. These overglorified “elites” (which usually turn out to be more Jeffrey Dahmer than John Rambo) have never won any wars for the countries that employ them.

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      1 year ago

      Tbh, I didn’t know Israel was known for cyber security. Guess I just think of a religious country with a big ass wall… but I’m not sure why I think of a wall. Could be World War Z

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        Tel Aviv is pretty much silicone valley these days with development. Every major Tech firm has an HQ there and they sell a shit load of security technology outside of that too.

        Most people there aren’t necessarily religious. The government that got elected is though and it’s dragging them to the far right.

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      I read somewhere that presumably Hamas uses out of the date / primitive ways of communication to avoid being tracked online. I can’t seem to see Hamas to outperform Israel at cyber security but I can imagine them running "off network " cables via their tunnels or even using old fashion living messengers .
      edit: typos

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        It’s Hamas. When you type in “Hammas”, it makes it sound like some kind of Hummus brigade. Arabic places emphasis on double constants (where the same consonant is at the end of one syllable and at the beginning of the next) which could change the meaning of the word. In fact, I think “Hammas” in Arabic would mean “him who encourages enthusiasm”, whereas Hamas means “enthusiasm” but is also short for the Islamic Resistance Movement.

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      Quite obviously, those tools don’t win you wars. The world population is huge, so a martial artist doesn’t count for much. Spying tech is useful, but it’s also something people can work around, and regardless , the difficult challenge is what to do with that data.

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        1 year ago

        your right, shooting civilians on the other hand is a major win tho

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      1 year ago

      Israelis definitely seem pissed that the IDF didnt get word of this attack before it happened via cyber or spy channels.

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      Not praising the war on terror, but we very quickly identified targets and let it be known that we were invading for these specific people.

      Israel’s handling of this feels like they’re just leaving it at war against bad guys/guys we don’t like very much/people that look at us funny/Jim from down the street.

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      You really think they don’t know where Hamas’ leaders are? They know, but it’s probably impossible to kill them, since they hide under hospitals in underground tunnels, and no type of ammunition can penetrate 30m deep underground without obliterating the building above it. No country in the world has faced these kinds of fighting conditions, and even the U.S had trouble fighting in the middle east because of probably these same reasons.

      They’re not fighting another army, with a base and well defined targets. They’re fighting a terror organization operating from civilian homes.

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      That’s because the gross of the Israeli military and intelligence is bussy harassing the Palestinian on the West Bank and giving support to the “settlers” land stealing efforts.