Hey guys, I’m trying to see if one of the two games is worth getting.

I really like Battlestar galactica and got every extensions. Now the problem with Battlestar galactica is that the game is very long and it takes a lot of time to explain the rules to people… From what I’ve read Nemesis can fix the issue as the basic rules are simple and quick to explain and the game only needs 1 player to know the rest.

Now I have several questions: -I read that like in BSG people may have different objectives. How does it work exactly? Do you get these from the start? Can you become an enemy mid-game because you got infected or something? Is there some kind of bluffing involved like in BSG? -I don’t have much board games, but this one looks expensive to me. Is there any reason for it and do you think it’s worth the money? -What would your recommend between Nemesis and Nemesis: Lockdown? -Do you think maybe there are other games that may be a good replacement for BSG?

Thank you!

  • Kwa@derpzilla.netOP
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    8 months ago

    Thanks for the detailed answer!

    I have checked Horrified, but it seems this is different than BSG. As someone else said, I think I have misunderstood the conflicting objectives. In BSG there are 2 sides and you hide what side you’re playing on. Also you may turn evil mid game (maybe like the insane variant). So at any point in the game, you may never be sure who to trust or not.

    For Nemesis, I didn’t think the time to setup/breakdown/teach would be so long… Well this seems this is not the BSG alternative I was looking for. The game looks really nice and I had never heard of Tabletop Simulator, so I’m definitely going to give it a try. Thank you!

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      8 months ago

      Gotcha, might not be as involved but you may want to check out some of the Dark city games by facade games. The general theme on those is 2 or more factions pitted against each other with some social deduction because you don’t know who’s on which team. Those are generally fairly quick and easy. Secrets is another similar game. All of those were pretty fun and sit a large group too.

      As for Nemesis, yea, it is a bit of a time sink. I don’t think I’ve ever unboxed and reboxed under the 2 hour mark - even when it is just my friend and I moving briskly. That said, certainly give it a shot on Tabletop Simulator. It’s one of my favorite games because how the game reacts to what players do, which just sets chaos into motion.

      Tabletop Simulator has tons of free games available, and they are all done very well. Certainly a gem. The idea of subscribing to make a game playable is kind of weird but makes sense after a bit.

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        8 months ago

        Dark city games looks like a very simple BSG, I can see the same mechanics with the deck playing some random cards that can pollute the votes. I’m definitely getting one of these, thanks!

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      8 months ago

      When I think of BSG, what comes to mind for me is something like Panic Station, or maybe Human Punishment (the Beginning). Maybe take a look at those three games if you don’t know them already.

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        8 months ago

        Thanks! I’ve checked Human Punishment, indeed it looks like a kind of BSG. From BGG, it seems it is about as long as BSG. I’ve watched a video with rules explained, there are a lot of options, I’m not sure if it would be any faster than BSG to explain them