• echo64@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    And in no other games! Patents aee truely wonderful aren’t they.

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      We will get like two games out of this before the patent expires cuz Rockstar takes 3 console gens to make 2 games.

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      Or those gigantic multi million dollar game dev corporations could afford to, you know, pay to license that shit for their own games.

      If they can afford to pay the CEOs millions of dollars for their golden parachute as well as their yearly salary, then they can afford that license.

      If you think a game that doesn’t have that is a failure, then both your expectations as well as that game both deserve to fail.

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        Why license endless patents if you can save money by just not doing that

        Greedy ceos is a bad justification for software patents

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          You sound like you need a refresher on basic intellectual property protections and why they are essential.

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            Remember when Amazon, Apple, ARM, Cisco, Facebook, Google, Huawei, Intel, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, Nvidia, Samsung Electronics and Tencent all had to come together and form a super group to develop a royalty free video codec because something as simple as compressing and decompressing video was so god damn patent encumbered by people who just existed to suck money out of everyone.

            Literally, every time software is patented, it ends up being used to screw with everyone, then eventually the patent expires ten years after the software was useful, or we have to waste huge amounts of effort to sideline it.

            You sound like you need a history refresher on patents in the software industry and the disastrous effect that it has had in hurting innovation and consumers and how it is dominated by trolls and squatters.

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              I don’t know how to convey to you how important it is to incentivize innovation without worrying someone else will simply steal your ideas to make millions from your hard work you did inventing something while they literally did nothing.

              If I make something and someone else can simply take it and dominate the market with it and pay me nothing for the work i did, why the fuck should I even bother making anything?

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                Again, look at the history of software patents. Tell me a single time it incentivied innovation and wasn’t just used by patent trolls and wasn’t just a huge waste of time and money for the industry to spend time on.

                I think you are wholey unfamiliar with software patents in general and are just going on some basic guiding principal and I can tell you right now, history has not played out in your idilic description at all and you are just coming off as ignorant on the topic.

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                  Let’s take a look at countries with no patent laws and compare their innovations that contributed to the rest of the world:

                  East Timor - nothing
                  Suriname - nothing
                  Somalia - nothing
                  Eritrea - nothing
                  Maldives - nothing
                  Marshall Islands - nothing
                  Micronesia - nothing
                  Myanmar - nothing
                  Palau - nothing
                  South Sudan - nothing
                  North Korea - nothing
                  
                  
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                    This is literally just whataboutism. You must be degenerate if you think that there’s a correlation between the research performance of the listed countries and their patent laws. There are dozens of more useful and much more relevant indicators for why these nations are disadvantaged in this regard. But just stick to your belief that North Korea is what it is because it doesn’t have patent laws lol.

                    Also, for you to better understand the harm that software patents caused and are causing, consider reading Free Software, Free Society by Richard Stallman.

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                I don’t know how to convey to you how important it is to incentivize innovation without worrying someone else will simply steal your ideas to make millions from your hard work you did inventing something while they literally did nothing.

                If I make something and someone else can simply take it and dominate the market with it and pay me nothing for the work i did, why the fuck should I even bother making anything?

                TIL that open source doesn’t exist.

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                  TIL that morons here don’t know the difference between software patents and copyright licenses.

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                    Oh sorry, I was under the impression that you had at least a basic knowledge about software and software development.

                    I now see that that’s not the case.

                    Open source is an area where software patents don’t generally protect the product, and yet it’s the most innovative space out there. And in cases where patents are brought in (see the rust trademark incident) they are rejected by the community. And yet open source is still around, and powering most of the internet and present in most devices.

                    If what you said about patents were the case, that would not be so.

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          I cannot see how they can reasonably copyright the idea of having characters remember you which is basically all the nemesis system is. There are many ways to implement it that wouldn’t violate patent, of course it’s in WBs interest to not nose that one around too much

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            You can try, but WB will troll you in court for years and drown you out on legal fees to prove it isn’t a violation of a patent. So, most consider it not worth it.

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            Yeah, imagine if there was an area of software development where people could freely view, copy and modify each others works.

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                When working on an OS project you are doing it out of altruism and/or fun, fully realising that you will never be compensated for this work.

                That would imply there are no devs or even entire companies working on open source software and getting paid.

                Just because you work on open source, doesn’t mean you don’t get paid.

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        Dude, maybe you do work on patents and know your shit. But boy are you clueless about the video game industry.

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          I thought the man was joking then I saw his smooth brained response below. Software patents are cancer and shouldn’t exist.

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            You think that patent abuse is right, and that’s why everyone in this thread hates your comments. You think the system is fine. The fact that you are inside but can’t understand how corporations abuse the system and think others are wrong or misinformed when they oppose this abuse, is troubling. You think we are ignorant or misinformed, but no, we do know how intellectual property works. We disagree and find it disgusting for moral reasons that it works that way. That’s very different.

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                Patents genuinely are wonderful. The rockstar devs are going to be rewarded for their innovation. They will hire out licenses so that other games can use the tech they developed.

                Comment by you, about 5 hours ago.

                they are trying to out Marxist each other

                Fuck off corpo.