• unfreeradical@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Many concede as inevitable that work should be miserable.

    Yet, some even still cast shame on those who emphasize the misery it causes.

    Meanwhile, among those who describe work as miserable, it is common to assume the reason as being that work involves effort, rather than that work, at least the way it is generally imposed, requires the worker being subordinated.

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      8 months ago

      Many concede as inevitable that work should be miserable.

      There are some jobs that suck, but they’re essential. Like maintaining sewers in big cities. It’s a miserable job, but if no one does it you’re going to have huge problems really fast.

      Supply and demand. There’s a high demand for workers of all sorts, but no employers want to pay the high price for having a worker on staff.

      It’s not that no one wants to work anymore, it’s that no employers want to pay people enough to live and people don’t want to be forced to work 90% of their week to still not make enough money to live.

      Business owners that don’t understand that are entitled and stupid.

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        8 months ago

        Why do you describe certain jobs, such as the ones you chose to mention, as being inherently miserable?

        The motive for my observation was to provoke reflection over the essential factors determining how we experience work.

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      8 months ago

      I understand and agree but memes like this and the whole “anti-work movement” are doing irreparable damage to any progress you could hope to make in “work reform”.

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          8 months ago

          I just explained my particular grievance in the comment you replied to.

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            8 months ago

            You provided two different names, each representing collections of ideas and objectives that are extremely general and often nebulous or ambiguous, and you complained that someone is pursuing one to the detriment of the other.

            No more is plain from the text you wrote.

            I am asking you to offer further details over how you personally are understanding the particular terms, and perceiving the conflicts.