I try everything I can, music, animation, art, programming, even Sports yet no one understands me!

It’s so hard to live with autism, and I’m wondering how I can get help. 😩

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      What if they don’t believe in Jesus?

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        There is not much believe necessary. Only that there could be help because someone told them that there is. If they tried everything else, what is the harm in trying it with Jesus?

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          Jesus was born around 2000 years ago and the oldest person ever recorded lived a bit less than 123 years, so either he’s dead, either he’s hiding very well, and thus can’t do shit either without getting exposed.

          Checkmate idiot.

          But you might wanna try to get help with Santa tho, and don’t tell me he doesn’t exist, there are many more recorded encounters with Santa than with Jesus.

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            That is a straw-man argument because no one is claiming Jesus lives in the way you are describing it. Also you didn’t even look into the link because your “argument” is not addressing any of the arguments in there.

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              I honestly don’t really care, you are free to live your religion the way you want, but I don’t think it’s okay to bring that forward on a post about autism and mental health. How would you feel if someone else posted that “Allah can help them”? Your comment just feels pushy about your religion without providing any other useful input to OP’s problem.

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                I told them that because I really believe that the one person who can help them is Jesus and because I want them to get better. Do you have any advice that could help them?

                Btw here is a video of someone with a mental illness where Jesus helped: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9a6U-BF-T6g

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                  Whether or not I have advice for them is not part of the debate.

                  That video is just anecdotal evidence, there is also plenty of evidence of religions creating a lot of suffering, particularly mental health issues related to education due to beliefs (for example for LGBTQIA+ community, which has a lot of overlap with the neurodivergent community).

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                    Fact is you are not even try to help them you are only trying to prevent them from trying if someone/something can help them.

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              All “arguments” in your text are just stories. Not a single fact in sight. But the word fact is repeated ad nauseam. As if it is trying to summon facts from thin air by invoking the word often enough.

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          Your argument is called Pascal’s wager. My main objection is there’s a lot of superstitions to try. If you want maximize the benefit of a strategy like you’re describing, you have to worship every god of every religion, obey every limitation on what you can do in every religion, superstition or conspiracy, take every supposedly magical medicine, ect. They all seem equally unlikely, but they are all believed by someone and if true would have huge benefits, so by your logic I should follow all of them completely. Except by doing that I am sacrificing most of my life for the tiny possibility of a benefit, rather than making the most of the life I know I have.

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            That was only an argument why you could try it not an argument for the validity. For that you have to look at the link in my other comment.

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              Don’t forget that most religions have edicts that contradict those of other religions or even forbid you to practice other religions. So to maximize your utility function you would need to exclude those. I seem to remember that yours is among those.

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                You forget that that there is another possibility: that one of the religions is true. Of course I am thinking that my religion is true just like you think that your belive is true. I have way more reason to believe that my believe is true than the minimal fact theory. The fact that you just dismissed all the facts in it as mere stories shows me that there is no sense in giving you the other reasons. Have a nice life.

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          What is the harm in trying it with the flying spaghetti monster? That’s one of the most funny arguments. As if the alternative to atheism is belief in your god. Like there aren’t a million other ones to choose from. No thank you. If I ever cast my lot with a god, (which is very doubtful) I’ll choose one that at least has a sense of humor.

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          Nope, the burden of evidence is on the one claiming something contradicting current scientific understanding.

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            I provided evidence. Why are you asking me to provide evidence if you are not willing to look at it?

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              I looked at it. It’s a bunch of anecdotal evidence from 2000 years ago. Anecdotal evidence is well established to be extremely unreliable, people hallucinate all sorts of nonsense all the time. I couldn’t find a justification for how any amount of anecdotal evidence can prove resurrection, which violates many scientifically proven theories.

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                  What part? There’s nothing revealing about calling it anecdotal, all historical evidence for that time is.

                  I just don’t think the anecdotal evidence is relevant to this discussion. The claims of Christianity are so great that it doesn’t cut it for me.

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                    You are dismissing evidence that is believed to be true by over 95% of scholars of all kinds of beliefs and are not even trying to find an explanation for that evidence. That shows that you are biased and your main goal is to dismiss it, not to really look into it.

                    But why are you even arguing? If it is like you are saying, Jesus can’t help them. If it is like I say Jesus can help them. Why do you want to prevent them from even trying?

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                And another one who didn’t really look at it yet feels compelled to reveal their ignorance by making unqualified comments.

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      Just remember everyone. This is a place of peace for believers in god and atheists alike. Arguments over this kind of stuff should stay out of this community.

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        I’m an atheist

        My condolences. You will never find someone who understands you like God, your creator, understands you.