Reflecting on his presidency, Obama posed the question, “Well, was there something else I could have done?”

Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”

“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.

    • Serinus@lemmy.world
      85·
      8 个月前

      Watch this My life as a Palestinian fighter - YouTube with a little bit critical of an eye and tell me what you think. This is supposed to be in favor of Palestinians, but what I get out of it is that the mother is proud of the son fighting and dying. What I get out of this is that many Gazans want the fighting to continue, but only when it’s their people fighting Israel. Who do you think put out this video? Do you think Israel is behind it? Or do you think it’s honestly made in favor of Palestine? What’s the purpose of this video and who made it?

    • PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee
      65·
      8 个月前

      How do you propose to kill everyone who is Hamas without killing any civilians?

      In war, civilians always die. That’s just reality.

        • fosforus@sopuli.xyz
          3·
          8 个月前

          Again, how would you suggest they do it? Don’t avoid the question.

          If this was World War 2, would you be saying that we shouldn’t kill any nazis if it causes civilian casualties? Nazis, like their Hamas associates, also used human shield tactics.

          • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            1·
            8 个月前

            They have one of the most technologically sophisticated militaries in the world. You think they can’t minimize civilian casualties? The state of Israel is run by fascists who are building an ethnostate. They don’t care about Palestinians.

            The cost of destroying Hamas isn’t worth intentionally targeting civilians. They’re blowing up HOSPITALS.

        • rengoku2@lemm.ee
          45·
          8 个月前

          You didnt answer his question. Avoiding it does not make you more right than him.

          • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            32·
            8 个月前

            I’m not answering the question because I’m not drawing the line at no civilians. It’s not my position so I’m not going to defend it.

    • S_204@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1727·
      8 个月前

      Where did I justify anything? I’m pointing out your ignorance is all.

      Proportional in the context you’re using it doesn’t mean what you think it does.

      You’re probably one of those people who says things like genocide when the population has doubled since 1950, or apartheid when Arabs serve in the IDF, sit as judges in the courts and hold seats in the parliament.

      Tensions are high, spreading disinformation like you are doing is a problem that needs to be called out. Notice I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt assuming you’re just ignorant and not doing this intentionally.

      None of what I’ve said justifies the actions of anyone either. I’m simply pointing out that accuracy is important and you made a mistake.

      • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        167·
        8 个月前

        You know that they’re are streets in Jerusalem that Palestinians are not even allowed to walk down, right? It’s an apartheid state.

          • spiderplant@lemm.ee
            22·
            8 个月前

            Proportional in the context you’re using it doesn’t mean what you think it does.

            Proportionality is important in international law which is one of the reasons that the UN keeps calling out Israel for war crimes. Another cool fact in international law is that the threat to national security has to be imminent to strike into another country. They can’t just bomb in retaliation and say they are preventing future attacks.

            You’re probably one of those people who says things like genocide when the population has doubled since 1950, or apartheid when Arabs serve in the IDF, sit as judges in the courts and hold seats in the parliament.

            Big Zionist misinformation here, population numbers going up can not disqualify acts from being genocidal. Also black people participated in South African society in the same way but no one would say SA wasn’t an apartheid state because a minority existed in the army or parliament.