In a different world, I would be giving my chunk of coal to the person who has a plan to keep all of us warm through the winter, with our collective coal.
In a different world, I would not be giving my chunk of coal to a dude who would use all our coal to keep his mansion toasty.
In this world, I won’t toss my chunk of coal into either dumpster fire.
I’ll just keep my piece of coal. At least get an hour of warmth before I face the actual winter.
That’s a beautiful metaphor but you’re still not acknowledging the reality of the situation where by not voting you are making the things you don’t like worse for yourself.
It still doesn’t quite work though because a vote has no inherent use outside an election. You aren’t going to be able to turn it in for free food or rent.
Of course a vote has no use outside an election. What are you on about? Why do you think people have fought so hard for their right to vote in the past if it is so useless?
Except a chunk of coal has uses. An uncast vote has absolutely zero. Your vote is either +1, 0, or - 1 to a candidate (zero being not voting or third party). Not voting makes you complicit regardless. It could prevent one person from being elected. You’re always complicit. If you’re paying taxes you’re complicit.
As it turns out, we live in a society, and your at least partially responsible for what happens in that society no matter what you do.
Vote in your primaries and get involved with other things too, but not voting is an action that makes you complicit with either side being elected. At least voting for someone has the chance of losing and you not having been a part of it.
okay so you’re making a choice that as long as you’re not involved it’s okay for trump to win
No.
My vote is my chunk of coal.
In a different world, I would be giving my chunk of coal to the person who has a plan to keep all of us warm through the winter, with our collective coal.
In a different world, I would not be giving my chunk of coal to a dude who would use all our coal to keep his mansion toasty.
In this world, I won’t toss my chunk of coal into either dumpster fire.
I’ll just keep my piece of coal. At least get an hour of warmth before I face the actual winter.
That’s a beautiful metaphor but you’re still not acknowledging the reality of the situation where by not voting you are making the things you don’t like worse for yourself.
It still doesn’t quite work though because a vote has no inherent use outside an election. You aren’t going to be able to turn it in for free food or rent.
Of course a vote has no use outside an election. What are you on about? Why do you think people have fought so hard for their right to vote in the past if it is so useless?
That’s why I’m saying there’s no value in withholding a vote.
There are 2 major fires.
I’m not throwing fuel at the base of either.
There are 2 major fires inside your house. You’re not throwing water on either, and one is about to hit a gas line.
Except a chunk of coal has uses. An uncast vote has absolutely zero. Your vote is either +1, 0, or - 1 to a candidate (zero being not voting or third party). Not voting makes you complicit regardless. It could prevent one person from being elected. You’re always complicit. If you’re paying taxes you’re complicit.
As it turns out, we live in a society, and your at least partially responsible for what happens in that society no matter what you do.
Vote in your primaries and get involved with other things too, but not voting is an action that makes you complicit with either side being elected. At least voting for someone has the chance of losing and you not having been a part of it.
You have yet to understand the power of a 0 throw.
I’m not doing nothing. I’m not passively doing the worst.
I’m flipping the monopoly board.
you’re not flipping the monopoly board… you’re passing on your turn and all that does is ensure that someone else decides for you
No, don’t you get it? They’re absolutely a revolutionary. We will tell tales of their societal impact for generations.
No… You aren’t… You’re saying “I’m okay with either one”
giving your lump of coal to the guy that keeps his mansion warm is better than giving it to the guy that uses it to light a fire to burn witches
again, it’s the choice between mostly ineffective and actually malicious