The poll found 50% of Democrats approve of how Biden has navigated the conflict while 46% disapprove — and the two groups diverge substantially in their views of U.S. support for Israel. Biden’s support on the issue among Democrats is down slightly from August, as an AP-NORC poll conducted then found that 57% of Democrats approved of his handling of the conflict and 40% disapproved.

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    Genuine question: other than the speech right after Oct 7 happened, what has Biden even done besides require Ukraine and Israel funding to be in the same bill? I keep seeing posts about Biden’s response but I still don’t know what it is :c

    In my post history, I was leaning towards Israel in the beginning until I learned about the atrocities they committed/are committing. At this point, I’m firmly of the opinion that Palestine needs justice.

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      Biden hasn’t done much other than secure their funding, which is by no means a small amount btw, but he has made a lot of statements about it that people disagree with such as

      "This attack has brought to the surface painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of antisemitism and genocide of the Jewish people.

      So, in this moment, we must be crystal clear: We stand with Israel. We stand with Israel. And we will make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself, and respond to this attack.

      There is no justification for terrorism. There is no excuse.

      The loss of innocent life is heartbreaking.

      Like every nation in the world, Israel has the right to respond — indeed has a duty to respond — to these vicious attacks.

      I just got off the phone with — the third call with Prime Minister Netanyahu. And I told him if the United States experienced what Israel is experiencing, our response would be swift, decisive, and overwhelming.

      We also discussed how democracies like Israel and the United States are stronger and more secure when we act according to the rule of law."

      ~ WhiteHouse.gov

      Kind of hard to walk back a statement that basically boils down to “Killing innocents is wrong when they do it, but it is good when we do it.”

      EDIT: some typos

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      Genuine question:

      Aside from pressure and funding, which the US government has yet to manifest, what would your expectations be of the US government in this situation?

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      The response people expect from his is an immediate ceasefire which he still has failed to accomplish. Not only that, he has failed to outright counter the narrative that Palestine = Hamas that some news outlets are spewing and failed to approach the issue with neutrality. Blanket support for Israel has made him (and the US) complicit in a genocide.

      People in his admin have quit over his stance and are apparently furious with how he’s positioned the US in this “war”. He/his admin also criticized Rashid Tlaib for speaking in favor of Palestine which caused dems and republicans to censure her.

      https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/u-s-diplomats-slam-israel-policy-in-leaked-memo-00125538

      https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/18/state-department-official-resigns-citing-destructive-decisions-in-israel-hamas-war-00122380

      https://www.vox.com/politics/2023/11/9/23953902/rashida-tlaib-censure-palestine-statement

      Basically, fuck Biden. And also, we’re fucked in 2024 at the hands of yet another geriatric asshole incapable of forming a coherent sentence, chose which flavor (D or R) you want.

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        choose what flavor (D or R) you want

        You really gonna wrap up your shit take with a brain dead both-sides line?

        Thanks for the laugh, moron

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          I really ought to call you a fucking idiot, but you’ve probably heard that all your life, so no sense for me to keep hammering it home.

          I’m all ears for the genius take you have but being the fucking idiot you are, you’re probably going to have a stroke trying to put it down into words.

          But sure, keep laughing. It’s likely good for your smooth brain.