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    Obligatory reminder that his company has already been found to have committed egregious and continuing fraud, and it has been ordered to be dissolved and the company assets sold off. This trial is punitive damages on top of that.

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      Mostly correct. Trump was found guilty of significantly inflating the value of his properties already. There are still charges over falsification of business records, insurance fraud, and conspiracy to commit fraud. Those don’t have guilty verdicts yet. Damages haven’t been decided, as you note.

      It’s also worth noting that this is a civil trial. That means that refusal to answer questions can result in “adverse inference” where the assumption will be that the worst possible answer was given (an admission of guilt). It may still be worthwhile to refuse to answer, e.g. under 5th amendment protections to avoid incriminating oneself on criminal charges. Criminal charges can be brought based on testimony given in civil trials, but adverse inference isn’t enough to get criminal charges.

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      Does anyone know if they could go after more people from their testimonies too? I guess Ivanka got out by way of the statute of limitations and not recalling anything, but maybe the evidence they produced could bring her back in.

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        NAL: Possibly, but my guess is probably not, since this is a case against the whole company (which includes the officers, etc.), so it would be like suing the group and then suing individually for the same things. Maybe civil trials involving companies are different, but my understanding is that you can’t do that because of double jeopardy.

        But losing his empire means grifting from his followers, a well that must be showing signs of drying up by now, is his family’s primary means of making money going forward.

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      They told him to slow down; that he was talking too fast to be recorded… so yeah, more than likely took a huge bump before sitting down to testify.

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        likely took another huge bump before sitting down to testify.

        Let’s be real here- that probably wasn’t his first bump of the day.

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    Trump Jr. said that Mar a Lago is an American castle and BBC must have thought that was hilarious judging by the picture they picked.

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      I think this week, this is the defense and I don’t think they have a ton. They don’t give the “housekeeping” in the updates.

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          The trial is expected to last as long as mid-December.

          That’s based on what the defense has said, but I have heard more than one commentator say that there’s no way the defense has that much material to present.

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            From what’s happening, it might actually last that long. He’s giving a slow motion tour through Mar a Lago and will probably do that for every property valuation. The judge is going to be bored into submission.