• SloganLessons@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Communism entails the collective ownership and administration of all means of production and the absence of social classes, while socialism advocates for worker control over means of production within a democratic society, allowing for some individual ownership and social stratification.

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      In addition, there are different levels of socialism. “Some” individual ownership turns people off. “The State owns the house I worked so hard to pay off?” You can have full private ownership of your things AND have single-payer health care, top-tier public education, reining in predatory banks, etc. We want to be Norway, not Venezuela.

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        1 year ago

        Your government is directly responsible for Venezuela’s instability. Your government’s entire foreign policy is destabilizing different parts of the world to float the Dollar as the main currency and you the citizens benefit the most from it, this is why I cringe inwardly when Americans complain of Capitalism’s adverse effects, if you enjoyed it while it was good, you must enjoy it while it gets bad.

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          As a venezuelan, no. What happened and still happens here was the sole responsibility of the socialist party’s government and the ultimate reason why I don’t trust leftists as they don’t own up their failures and just disregard them as “not true socialism”

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            The government of Venezuela isn’t blameless but to think that American sanctions didn’t affect the Venezuelan economy are the words of a true partisan. Your kind set up piano wire and beheaded civilians on motor bikes in Venezuela and I find that despicable.

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              1 year ago

              My kind? Thanks for the uncalled xenophobic racism.

              Venezuela has been going to shit since the 2000 with Chavez.

              Sanctions were stablished from 2015 and only to 7 individuals from the venezuelan government.

              Keep your lies up. Maybe you will start believing them.

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                1 year ago

                Lol racism card when I don’t even know your ethnicity? I was talking about you being a rich asshole.

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                  You literally jumped to call names on me and accused me of murdering people when you don’t even know me. You call me rich as if that means anything, and to top it You justify yourself with ignorance. You don’t knowing my ethnicity is the least of the issues here and frankly not knowing things about me is not stopping you from engaging with me in an uncivilized manner.

                  I find you despicable and a true rich asshole just given your behavior

    • SiyahGuraag@sh.itjust.works
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      I agree with what you’ve said. That’s how I saw it too. Communism is the last stage, while Socialism is a transition period, as a Communist friend once told me. P.S. WTF am I getting downvoted for asking a question?