• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    I want change. I want new ideas. Progress and solutions. Biden has been in government for over fifty years- most of that in the senate for over 40 years.

    He’s been a senator longer than I’ve been alive

    It’s not a question of age. It’s a question of stagnation.

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      11 months ago

      I’ll take stagnation over fascism. What is the short term plan? I mean, what happens if the orange blob snakes his way back in because the purity ponies and the “independents” stomped their feet and had a hissy?

      If that guy and his cohort get back in, it is most likely over for real elections in America.

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        11 months ago

        I’ll take stagnation over fascism.

        It’s clear that the party prefers stagnation to progress as well.

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          11 months ago

          progress > stagnation >>>>>>> fascism

          I don’t understand people who go “if I can’t have progress and I’m forced to vote for stagnation in order to prevent fascism, then I’m fine with fascism.”

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            11 months ago

            It does not follow that everyone who isn’t overjoyed with stagnation wants fascism.

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                11 months ago

                Well, I’m voting for Biden. It’s a shame that the party would rather stagnate and lose than progress and win.

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            Because the people offering stagnation are benefiting from the fascism. They’re two sides of one coin and every time you flip the coin the sharp edges slice the throat of a poor person.

            Besides, it’s not stagnation, that implies not moving. We are actually moving backwards and the reason why republicans are able to ban abortion, engage in blatant corruption, and run for president whilst on trial is because the “stagnation” side refuses to mount a proper offence because, again, they’re all benefitting from the situation.

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          11 months ago

          I’d almost rather see our government burn down and get replaced by another than let status quo limp along another four years.

          Real issues that real Americans want fixed have been ignored by Dems and Repubs alike for longer than I’ve been alive. Real issues, like widespread poverty wages, declining quality in public education, inaccess to healthcare, the prison system, terrible public transport in cities, no social safety nets, little action against climate change, etc. These issues have only gotten worse over time, so why would I vote for the status quo knowing that?

          Hell, the “good” party in charge right now is actively supporting genocide in the east and keeping healthcare so expensive at homr that I can’t get a cavity filled without taking lien out on my car. I’ll never own a home despite being an engineer and having virtually zero debt. Life as an American fucking sucks, and if the last 80 years of American politics are anything to go by, then voting in the status quo in 2024 will continue making life worse.

          The only American government that’s been in charge while I’ve been alive has done nothing but make my life worse. If things continue this way, maybe Americans will finally reach their tipping point 100 years from now and grow the balls to take their government back. I’d rather not wait that long.

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          11 months ago

          Is there some kind of outreach for people that want white supremacy and xtian nationalism that would work for Hillary?