Guilt is a strong word. Genocide and fascism are both terrible. The goal should be to minimize both.
If a Democrat gets elected next, will the genocide against the Palestinians stop, probably not. Will the US get more fascist, a little.
If a Republican gets elected next, will the genocide against the Palestinians stop, probably not. Will the US get more fascist, a lot.
It’s clear what the better outcome is. If you don’t vote towards the goal, then what are you doing? You’re taking the moral high ground, to make yourself feel better. Which is fine, but totally unproductive.
We would just be rewarding the fascist party for the mistakes made by the slightly less fascist party.
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It’s not ganing us any ground.
You ignored or missed the main point of my comment. Do you think the entire world ends in 2027?
I admitted the country would be worse off between 2024-2028. But you entirely ignored the idea that we might get some concession from politicians if it’s clear to them they lost due to being pro-genocide.
Do you think that’s literally impossible? That even in a world where it’s abundantly clear that being pro-genocide lost them 2024, that they’d definitely stay pro-genocide in 2028?
It’s not clear what the better outcome is, unless you can only see 3 years out. If you’re able to look 5+ years out, then a Republican winning in 2024 could mean an anti-genocide Democrat president in 2028 that wouldn’t have won otherwise.
Sorry, yes, maybe something would change. No the world won’t end 2027. But is punishing Biden (who won’t be running again) and the Democrats worth giving more power to Republicans and pushing the country deeper into fascism?
If the US loses democracy, the US might be the one committing the next genocide.
I disagree, In the long term, 20 years plus, voting Democrat would be the best option. The only exceptions would be if a leftist 3rd party is getting better polling numbers that the D or R candidate or the Rs became less fascist than the Ds for some reason.
Guilt is a strong word. Genocide and fascism are both terrible. The goal should be to minimize both.
If a Democrat gets elected next, will the genocide against the Palestinians stop, probably not. Will the US get more fascist, a little.
If a Republican gets elected next, will the genocide against the Palestinians stop, probably not. Will the US get more fascist, a lot.
It’s clear what the better outcome is. If you don’t vote towards the goal, then what are you doing? You’re taking the moral high ground, to make yourself feel better. Which is fine, but totally unproductive.
We would just be rewarding the fascist party for the mistakes made by the slightly less fascist party. . It’s not ganing us any ground.
You ignored or missed the main point of my comment. Do you think the entire world ends in 2027?
I admitted the country would be worse off between 2024-2028. But you entirely ignored the idea that we might get some concession from politicians if it’s clear to them they lost due to being pro-genocide.
Do you think that’s literally impossible? That even in a world where it’s abundantly clear that being pro-genocide lost them 2024, that they’d definitely stay pro-genocide in 2028?
It’s not clear what the better outcome is, unless you can only see 3 years out. If you’re able to look 5+ years out, then a Republican winning in 2024 could mean an anti-genocide Democrat president in 2028 that wouldn’t have won otherwise.
Sorry, yes, maybe something would change. No the world won’t end 2027. But is punishing Biden (who won’t be running again) and the Democrats worth giving more power to Republicans and pushing the country deeper into fascism?
If the US loses democracy, the US might be the one committing the next genocide.
I disagree, In the long term, 20 years plus, voting Democrat would be the best option. The only exceptions would be if a leftist 3rd party is getting better polling numbers that the D or R candidate or the Rs became less fascist than the Ds for some reason.