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    Jordan Sather, a prominent promoter of the QAnon conspiracy theory, suggested that Swift’s life had been orchestrated as part of a sinister plot to encourage her fans to vote.

    There a few other people quoted in there but it’s all the same sinister plan they are proposing: The psyop is encouraging people to vote.

    Republicans see large voter turnout as a bad thing because they are less popular than they want you to think they are. This is not new, it’s just a new target.

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      Swift’s life had been orchestrated as part of a sinister plot to encourage her fans to vote.

      Reminds me of the time Republicans in some local election had sent out a mailer smearing the Dem candidate. There was a big box on one part of the card, in a large font against a dark background proclaiming that the Dem candidate wanted to “Educate and Transform you!”

      Well, I thought, do your donors know you are campaigning for the Democrat?

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    Better headline:

    The Right will believe literally anything except reality because they don’t want to accept they’re unpopular.

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    The right is free to have kid Rock or whatever loser they have on their side, do the same things Taylor is doing, if they’re so concerned. Except all she’s doing is encouraging people to vote, which as we all know is bad for Republicans

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        More specifically if a woman they don’t like does it. They like her in theory because she’s white and attractive and straight and Christian and got her start as a country singer, but then she had to go and have opinions about things, so now she’s a commie who’s destroying America, or something.

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    Qanon? Not a psyop. Fake electors? Not a psyop. Fake evidence of election fraud? Not a psyop. Inciting insurrection at the capital? Not a psyop.

    Popular woman wants right to healthcare? PSYOP!!!

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        I really dislike all the attention Taylor Swift gets, but if this is what does it I will become a lifelong Swiftie.

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          I just don’t get it. I must be missing something really important about what makes her stand out as different from any other guitar-playing radio pop woman singer-songwriter since the early 2000’s. Why didn’t Michelle Branch get as popular? I don’t dislike her, just not my taste I guess.

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      Exactly.

      C’mon now, we all know the primary thrust of their attacks/defenses is always “I know you are, but what am I?”. By far the most common. It’s used like half the time.

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          No. If you call one corrupt or a liar for instance, they will not say anything like “I know I am.”

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            Trump says things like that all the time and gets away with it. At this point he might as well go ahead and murder that kid in the middle of Park Avenue, his followers will say it shows he’s strong, and what about Hunter Biden!?

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              True. I would say he’s atypical though, most of them don’t act like that. He’s a trailblazer, is what that man is.

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                Yeah, usually they say the Road to Hell is paved with good intentions. But he stepped off that path long ago and is forging a new Trail To Hell over a mountain of fraud, grift, sexual assault, and fascist thugbootery.

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    The whole article could have just been this:

    it remains unclear how encouraging people to vote can be construed as election interference.

    But one of the weirdest things is how conservatives are totally obsessed with how many people she’s dated. One of the tweets in the article says she “runs through men like water.” Ok? Even if it were somehow unacceptable to date multiple people throughout the whole of your twenties, god forbid, exactly what in the fuck does it have to do with “election interference.”

    I love how every male conservative leader can be married 5 times while paying for abortions for their girlfriends, but regular dating is where they draw the line.

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    It’s because the GOP knows that more voters means they lose. Centrists don’t exist. There’s no middle ground between Ds and Rs anymore.

    No one is 50/50 on Trump.

    VOTE

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        Prove it. The numbers from the 2016 and 2020 election say entirely different.

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      Centrists do exist and will always exist. Regardless how bad or good things are.

      The problems is both sides have at least 1 great and 1 terrible policy or stance.

      We need more sizeable parties options, or at least vote for them.

      That way people can vote for parties that best fits them.

      Note: voting for the lesser of two evils, won’t solve the problem. Just make things worse overall. We can all see that

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            That counts as a policy? I don’t think an individual action count as a policy. Unless the policy is “leaving any occupied territory”, but that’s not a policy of neither party.

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              There was also the whole thing where leaving Afghanistan was an operational disaster due to timelines put in by the Republicans who made that decision.

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                No they said “this is dumb let’s gtfo” so they gtfo. Everyone knew for 20 years that the pedo little boy rape force the American were training weren’t going to guard the country for more than 5 minutes after they left.

                Leaving Afghanistan is one of the best things Republitards have ever done. If a Democrat did it you’d all be praising them into the heavens.

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              That depends, if it’s bad, then yes, the thing Biden did. If you think it went well, what’s because Trump planned it and set the timelines. /s

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              It happened under his watch, but the terms of everything were setup by Trump. Which is also why it was a gigantic fuckup.

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        The problems is both sides have at least 1 great and 1 terrible policy or stance.

        Well, first off there’s 3 "sides.

        1. Conservatives (almost all Republicans)
        2. Moderates (mostly Dems)
        3. Progressive (all dem, but not all Dems)

        I’d love to hear what you think is great about 1 or terrible from 3.

        Those moderates tho…

        Their entire deal is just staying the same distance from 1 and 3, regardless of how illogical that is.

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        As long as the US continues to use first past the post for voting on these things, voting for the lesser of two evils is the only actual option we have. Voting independent in these races is effectively throwing your vote away at best.

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    Weren’t right wing men weirdly obsessed with Taylor Swift a while ago? Specifically in a creepy misogynistic “it’s a shame she’s not having kids, what a wasted opportunity” kinda way? I remember reading about that somewhere.

    If so, good for Taylor for now becoming an enemy to the creeps as opposed to an object of desire.

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      Years back before she had made any definitive statements about politics I think a lot of Republicans just assumed that as a rich, white, country-ish musician she was a right winger who could one day be their ideal Aryan Christofascist princess.

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      I don’t know if it was that group in general, but Stefan Molyneux in particular certainly was.

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      For the longest time they kept saying she was a 4chan user because at one point someone posted pictures of a skinny blond and said it was a selfie. Which quickly lead to users saying it was obviously Taylor.

      So that lead to them insisting Taylor is a far righter, super racist, and a trump supporter. But all in secret so she could grift liberals or something.

      Shit was super weird

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      I’m not sure what Molymeme is, but he’s not typical of the right in a lot of ways, unless his dive to insanity included finding God.

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    The only Swift conspiracy I believe is that she and the NFL fabricated her relationship with Travis Kelce to cross-pollinate the fan bases.

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      The NFL fabricating stories for views / clicks / likes?!?!

      Never!!!

      Cuts to Taylor at a football game

      Cuts to demar Hamlin - tho he did die

      Cuts to Josh Dobbs and his degree

      Cuts to Jackson mahomes

      Etc.

      I firmly believe that the NFL absolutely drives a narrative, creates drama, has the referees keep games close for views and latches on to anything that makes news and drives viewers.

      The games exist to only serve us ads… :/

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        Ohhhh that’s why football got huge, like, turned into a full on human meat grinder industry huge. Because advertisers wanted more eyeballs, so they started pumping money in.

        Wild how capitalism effects everything like that x.x

        Not sure I would have ever put that together without your “the game exists to only serve us ads” quip. Like, there’s naturally big, but when advertising gets involved, it becomes gigantic, whatever it is.

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          It’s also a game that works for advertising better than many others. Games like basketball want to keep things moving all the time. Now, the NBA does tend to stop everything a lot, but it’s unnatural to the game and fans hate it. Nobody plays a pickup game of basketball in a park like that.

          American Football inherently stops and starts, so there’s more places to stick commercial breaks.

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          Yeah I hate to put it that way… But last year with the demar Hamlin deal and then the whole Taylor swift deal this year and how overboard everything has gone with it… It just really drove home that they just want to drive a narrative that gets eyes on the screen.

          Alabama being in the college football playoffs over Florida State is the same thing for the NCAA. Saban is marketable and a household name outside of the sec. Which is why he’s on Aflac commercials… So of course bama gets into the playoffs. Marketing and views.

          Perhaps I’m just jaded, perhaps I’m wrong. But it really doesn’t feel like I am. :(

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          That and - I am going from memory here, so apologies if it’s not 100% correct, but you will get the idea:

          Isn’t that somewhat related to why the military does flyovers and things for some games? It’s a way of recruiting via advertisement.

          Please correct me if I’m getting it wrong.

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        Correction: the games used to exist to serve ads. They now exist to create gambling addicts.

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        I can’t remberbif it was NFL or NBA, but one of them are fully allowed to influence games by refs or something.

        Like, straight up went the WWE “we’re an entertainment industry” route. And I don’t mean people just think it’s possible, but I’m pretty sure whichever one it was has it explicitly stated in their own regulations that if it ever came out that they told refs who should win, and stopped hiring refs who don’t listen…

        That it would be both super cool and super legal.

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      The NFL fabricated her relationship with Travis Kelce to cross-pollinate the fan bases.

      I totally believe this too. I bet this was supposed to culminate in a Superbowl halftime show. She declined to headline it tho so maybe not. Maybe she’ll be a surprise appearance if the chiefs or eagles are there.

      But no matter the plan the relationship smells super fake.

      Edit: yo, downvoters, but seriously, why? I keep rereading what i wrote and i don’t get what’s angering peeps?

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    Swift is a force of good, as much as any insanely rich person can be. She alone may end up responsible for tens of thousands of young women registering to vote between now and election day. One of her Instagram posts drove 35,000 voter registrations. Republicans have every reason to fear the Swiftie factor.

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      Yeah. She’s measured with it too. One of the reasons her sway is so strong imo, is she just saved it up for a long time. So when she finally asks a fan “hey could you do this one little thing for me?” it almost feels like “uh, yeah, I’ve known you my whole life Taylor, of course.”

      Which the fan doesn’t “know her” per se, but between a musician and a huge fan, it definitely feels like you do. It’s a personal relationship, a little different from most other fandoms. Music is just odd that way.

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        I would say that Princess Diana would be a comparison.

        Personally, I like Swift because she has legs for days. I’ll vote for that reason alone.

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    Sorry not a swift person but isnt she just saying to her fans, you should register to vote and vote because its importent? Wish psyops was that simple.

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      Also they’re speaking as if their celebrities don’t tell people to go out and vote republican.

      Also what happened to the “free speech” crowd lol

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        It’s only freedom of speech when you’re saying super heinous shit! All other speech isn’t really free because that means you’re not speaking your mind since, you know, everybody thinks these super heinous things deep down and not just racist, misogynistic, violent psychopaths that are really the minority of people. They’re just the truly free people because they speak their mind truthfully!!

        (really hope I don’t need this but /s)

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    Are they upset how so many people could yield so much influence to one person ?

    And they want a dictator.

    I’m so sick of Absolutists. They create monarchies, wealth gaps, and Spanish Inquisitions.

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    So, Russian interference was a “hoax” (according to most of the radicalized right wing, the Enlightened Centrists and of course, a lot of the unhelpful left who seem to enjoy being useful idiots), but Taylor Swift is part of the Deep State or something?

    XD XD