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    Plus, she’s been wildly unpopular her whole career

    She’s been wildly unpopular with Republicans her entire career. Let’s not forget that she got more votes than Trump.

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        Again. She pulled more votes than Trump. I am sure that a lot of men of all stripes don’t like accomplished and assertive women.

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          Oh she pulled more votes than the complete joke of a human being that no one thought could ever possibly win? Amazing.

          Except that she lost to a reality TV grifter. Keep pushing that people that don’t like her are sexist though, it worked so well last time.

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          She pulled more votes than Trump.

          Maybe Bernie would have pulled votes where it mattered and won, but we’ll never know because it was her turn or some bullshit.

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            I’m a process believer. If you can’t get enough momentum to win primaries, you can’t expect to win the general. Bernie didn’t, it’s plain as that.

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              I’m a process believer.

              Particularly the part of the process where the party doesn’t have to adhere to its own primary rules.

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              Pretty hard to get momentum when your own party is undercutting you and playing unfairly, but go ahead and keep thinking everything was on the up and up

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                You’re never going to convince these true believers that the DNC is corrupt, and regularly rigs the system in favor of neo-liberal candidates. They can’t admit they are suckers for the same kind of brand loyalty and fetishization of party that exists on the right.

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                Big Bernie fan. I disagree on your wording. Bernie probably couldn’t draw enough people. Unfortunately the Democratic Party in collusion with Hillary’s campaign denied the people the right to vote in an impartial election, so it’s impossible to know.

                Hillary probably didn’t need to tamper with the election to win, but she did tamper with the election. Moreover in doing so she handed the presidency to the authoritarian toddler that she elevated as a pied piper. She’s directly responsible for Trump gaining power. She needs to stay the hell away from US politics, she’s done more than enough harm.

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                  Any evidence would be appreciated, otherwise it just feels like speculation or Russian propaganda(“DNC screwed Bernie, vote 3rd party or vote Trump to show DNC you disapprove of their actions”)

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                    Are you serious right now? You’ve never once bothered to look at the events of the 2016 primary, but you’re happy to call any disagreement propaganda?

                    Literally all you have to do is Google “Clinton pied piper” and “Clinton primary tampering” and you’ll find countless articles talking about it.

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          Again, a lot of people voted for her because they disliked Trump and the only way to keep him from winning was to vote for her. That’s the only reason I voted for her: Anyone else other than Trump.

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      Let’s not forget that she got more votes than Trump.

      Let’s not forget that many of her votes in that election were less about her and more about “anyone but Trump.”

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      To be fair all Democrats are widely unpopular with Republicans. When one comes into the spotlight the first thing they do is try to discredit them with bullshit. It could be Mr. Rogers himself.

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        Republicans started a campaign against Hillary at the the start of Bill Clinton’s Presidency. The playback to hurt Bill, who they had no answer for, was simular to what they are doing to Hunter Biden now. They knew she was smart and Bill was using her as an advisor. They investigated her and trash talked her for years. This gradually embedded itself into the American psyche so when she did start to achieve on her own, the Republican myths surfaced. You can still still see see them in this string.

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          Republicans didn’t force her to collude with the DNC to tamper with the primary. Nor did they force her to campaign on such gems as “$15/hr minimum wage is too high” and “we don’t need universal health care” and “if you don’t vote for me you’re sexist.”

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            Also refusing to condemn the Iraq war as a mistake was a HUGE no no for me. I will never forgive any prominent politicians involved in the pointless war.