• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    What right is that? The bill of rights talks about a well regulated militia. So unless you are part of one I am not sure where you are coming from.

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      11 months ago

      If you want to be willfully ignorant of what the founders were referring to then go ahead but it doesn’t change the fact that under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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        11 months ago

        I don’t give a shit what the intent was. Look at the text. Are you part of a well-regulated militia? No? Then stop cosplaying as a real soldier. You can enlist in the guard if you want to have pretend time.

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          11 months ago

          I don’t give a shit that you can’t parse English properly, commas matter.

          See, that’s the same structure. The part after the comma stands on its own and the part before is there to explain what’s up.

          It’s a natural right for everyone, the Constitution simply recognizes it and protects it.

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            11 months ago

            Those three words aren’t in there by mistake. You can play games with commas all you want but that will not make those three words vanish.

            You are not in a well regulated militia.

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              11 months ago

              The words don’t need to vanish, they are perfectly fine. They just don’t mean what you think they do.

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                  11 months ago

                  It means Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold.

                  But for real though, you’ve already been told in this very thread. Do your own research if you’re genuinely curious how you’ve got this so wrong.

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      11 months ago

      At the time, “well regulated” meant “well equipped”. And a militia is made up of regular citizens who are called up to take arms against an invader, like the minutemen. There’s nothing about a militia that implies they have any sort of formal training.

      But don’t take my word for it. Read the federalist papers, they were written by the same folks as the bill of rights and go into great detail about what they intended.

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        11 months ago

        I see so non-citizens are not part of the militia and hence can’t own guns? So permeant residents can’t own a gun?

        You did say citizens.

        Regular means what exactly? Be exact. Does it mean cops as well? How about vets? How about the elderly? How about people who could never possibly serve due to medical conditions? What about prisoners?

        You did say regular.