Morgan Stanley is crediting President Biden’s economic policies with driving an unexpected surge in the U.S. economy that is so significant that the bank was forced to make a “sizable upward revision” to its estimates for U.S. gross domestic product, CNBC reports.As a result of these unexp
that dick catered with homophobes, racists, and big corporations throughout his entire career; he’s not reasonable, he’s an opportunist.
i wish the young could see what ultimately crappy shit he’s done; but i guess this is the change that is needed.
Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?
i hope you’re young because being ignorant of his very public stances against gay marriage; against gays in the military; pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt is the only way you can be excused from knowning and a 30 second google search will confirm that he still stands by those decisions. educate yourself.
Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.
i happened to come across and article and thought of you: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/07/11/in-1996-sanders-and-biden-were-on-opposite-sides-of-doma-vote/
Hell yes, thank you. I’ll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.
Edit #1:
Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?
Edit# 2: damn it dude, this article makes me sad that Bernie got shafted. Thanks.
I’ve learned the hard way from Reddit that these kinds of requests will only result in my wasted time and it’s not my responsibility to educate you; use Google
here’s another https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonBlade/videos/trump-campaign-just-blasted-out-his-clip-of-biden-against-same-sex-marriage-in-2/297576781630948/
This one won’t load for me because I have my firewall block the entire Facebook domain. Can you provide a summary?
it came from here: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-nothing-be-proud-the-biden-lgbt-record
Ok, so fuck Biden lol. What option is there for the next election cycle?
here’s another https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/biden-gay-marriage-history
Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.
So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?
none since too many people support him completely out of ignorance of what he’s done and said; like you did.
it’s mind blowing that there are literally videos of him doing shitty things that a 30 second google search will show you, but people will still refused to believe it; we’re no better than maga-ites
Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.
The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html
He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.
It’s unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he’s changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?
Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said “nothing would fundamentally change”. A couple bones thrown here or there doesn’t change that. I don’t know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he’s doing more than he actually is, but he’s really not.
not only was he not perfect in the past; but he still stand by his wrong decisions to this day.
They’re not correct at all lol
Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.
Biden has literally always been a stand up guy
Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.
Maybe don’t get your news from rags
Did you not see his response in the primary debates when kamala called out his segregation policies? Rather than admit that it was the wrong decision, he defended it and used the times as an excuse. Just look at his voting record, he’s been very conservative over his career. It doesn’t matter though, people change, and actions speak louder than words. He’s doing good stuff as president and that’s what matters right now.
Edit: spelled Kamala wrong and I’m embarrassed
Can you at least try to spell the VP’s name right enough that people know who you’re talking about?
Yup that’s embarrassing
Perhaps rather than an abrupt about-face at 80 years old, you’re simply incorrect about Biden’s “history.”
He was right about schools. We lost a generation of black educators due to the way desegregation was handled nationwide. Biden accurately commented on this. We could have done better, which is literally what he was arguing for.
I actually learned of this fact tangentially, through an old episode of Revisionist History. His campaign ignored it because it’s safer to ignore than to trust people to understand nuance. Sound campaign move, but plays to a lie, fundamentally.
Well hey that’s interesting, I’ll have to go read about that. Thanks!
you’re splitting hairs and you’re being disingenuous by ignoring all the other bad shit he’s done. off the top of my head his stances against gay marriage, against gays in the military and permanent-for-life student debt are enough to brand him an ass hat and the fact that he still stands by those decisions proves that he’s not worthy of your vote.
you should educate yourself
Lol this is awesome because your very first example is not only false, it was considered a minor scandal at the time: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-gaymarriage/biden-apologizes-to-obama-for-same-sex-marriage-remark-idUSBRE8491NH20120510
Then he, you know, signed gay marriage into federal law.
Kinda stopped reading there but I’m assuming you said similarly wrong things.
Yes because that was the one and only time that gay marriage was a topic of conversation lol
You claimed that he opposes gay marriage. That is false. It is a newsworthy level of false.
opposed and i do hope that you report it to the news so that you can be nicely embarrassed.
here’s another that just now taught me that he’s a bigger dirt bag than i realized: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/trump-campaign-press-release-nothing-be-proud-the-biden-lgbt-record
i happened to come across this article and shared with another who refuses to believe biden is an shitty political opportunist: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/07/11/in-1996-sanders-and-biden-were-on-opposite-sides-of-doma-vote/
and someone else found this: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/biden-gay-marriage-history
and another https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonBlade/videos/trump-campaign-just-blasted-out-his-clip-of-biden-against-same-sex-marriage-in-2/297576781630948/
And yet somehow he was the still the best available option.
he’s an opportunist and knows that trump is unpopular outside his base; he’s not the best available option, he’s the ONLY viable option.
While I agree with you, at least he’s behaving reasonably now. I don’t like all his decisions but I do like that many of the decisions are being delegated as they should be, and would re elect him against either of the two R frontrunners in a heartbeat. That’s not high praise, but I do think his administration is doing much better than I thought it would
Edit: I’m surprised at the number of downvotes on the parent comment, they’re not exactly wrong.
for me: the permanent damage he’s done to my life was committed back in the 90’s/00’s and i would forgive him, but he still very publicly stands by his decisions against gay marriage, against gays in the military, pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt.
You don’t have to like or support him to acknowledge what the government is doing. Hell, I can even acknowledge that Trump made a few good decisions.
i hate trump; but i do admit that some of his decisions have made my life much better
I also hate Trump, significantly more than I hate Biden
i hate them both at the same level. trump because he’s a racist ass hat and biden because he permanently fucked up my life.
I guess I never asked, what exactly did he do that ruined your life? Hard to imagine something to put him on an equal level with the guy who filled the court which lead to the overturning of roe v Wade and the protection of businesses to allow discrimination and to end affirmative action.
he supported doma, dont-ask-dont-tell, and spearheaded permanent student loan debt.
so when i graduated high, school military service was not an option because because of don’t-ask-don’t-tell and my parents were migrant farm workers who had no provisions for me. so the only option left to me was to go to college where i racked up enough permanently undischargable student loan debt that grew exponentially between the 2008 and covid collapses thanks to biden’s student loan debt bill. I’ll be paying for it for the rest of my life as a result.
between 2008 and covid, i wanted to marry another immigrant who had no legal status and, thanks to doma, i couldn’t marry and sponsor him so he got deported. he moved on and got married when it was politically convenient for biden to decide that gay marriage was okay and i’m too old of an incouragable fart to date.
People change over time. Are all of your viewpoints the exact same as when you first paid attention to politics?
“people change” is a seemingly reasonable cover for that doesn’t work for him because he staunchly stands by his wrong decisions for decades until it’s politically convenient for him to “change” despite it impacting his own life and he’s done it for every single one of his decisions and only “changes” once there’s no political back lash.
in ten years time (assuming he’s still alive) he’s going to back pedal on permanent student loan debt once an overwhelming majority of voters make it a core issue.