It’s FOSS, so fork it and host it yourself or find someone else you like who has/can do so. I don’t personally think it’s too surprising that this free (as in freedom) platform was created by and initially attracted leftists and anarchists, and even if it is, I think it matters far, far less than everyone seems to think it does.
Serious question: Since it’s a federated system that is open-source, what do their political views have to do with supporting the platform? Even if they decide to become Neo-Nazis and change it, the rest of use can continue to use the work they’ve made thus far and keep it like it is or improve on it. Our use of it doesn’t support their political aspirations either aside from their beliefs in federated social media.
They have the censorship hard coded in. Why mess with a compromised platform when there are better alternatives available that don’t include censorship and human rights violations?
I’m not that tech savvy…so please be patient. From what I can tell, the slurs are the only things that hard-coded in. Am I missing something else?
Does hard-coded mean it cannot be changed even though it’s FOSS? According to that conversation, they seem a bit concerned that the tables with the slurs can be easily removed.
I’m okay with slurs being blocked, but I guess it would depend on how they define the slurs and all that. Also, maybe it would be a better idea to remove the slur protection from the actual Fediverse and let instances apply their own version, but at the same time, I see benefit to blocking it universally. It’s not something that’s clearly black-and-white to me.
I guess that aside from their personal political views regarding marxism-leninism (I’m assuming that’s what ‘ml’ stand for), I’m confused as to how that practically affects the Fediverse. For what it’s worth, I tend to subscribe to anarcho-socialism, so while I have overlap with marxism-leninism, I’m vehemently opposed to any authoritarian/bureaucratic centralized control of an economy. Which means that I also don’t agree with their application of marxism. However, I see that as irrelevant to the Fediverse, and as far as I can tell, the Fediverse is quite decentralized anyway.
Does hard-coded mean it cannot be changed even though it’s FOSS? According to that conversation, they seem a bit concerned that the tables with the slurs can be easily removed.
No, you just need to step up and become the guy known for maintaining the slur fork of Lemmy. 😏
I do believe this was changed some time ago though. It is a setting admins can change without compiling from source.
That is old discourse. The slur filter has been multilingual and not hardcoded for a while iirc (ignore the account date I’ve switched accounts a lot).
Must be traumatic to have your worldview questioned for the first time. They’ve been fed anti-communists propaganda from birth and are now trying to avert their eyes, lol. Reminds me of evangelicals when they encounter “satanic” media.
Are you suggesting that there are no valid criticisms of communism, and then removing the agency of anyone who suggests otherwise? I’m genuinely curious as a socdem who likes a lot of liberal ideas.
I’m suggesting this is cult-like behavior, yes. People (especially communists) criticize various Marxist thinkers as well as the positions of communist parties all the time. Of course I don’t think every criticism is invalid. As far as I can tell, they’re barely even doing any criticizing in the linked thread, they’re just going “tankie warning!!! do not hang out with these people!!!”.
lol they’re going to reconsider their antipathy for reddit when they show up here and don’t have the entire reddit “policy” department putting their thumbs on the scales
@communist
It looks like the Lemmy devs might have some IRL issues.
https://reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/143o5xd/reconsidering_my_support_for_lemmy/
those are the admins of one instance. if you don’t like them, you can join another or create your own
Not if they’ve hard coded their censorship into the platform.
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
That hasn’t been the case for a while now. It also never truly mattered, the code is available for you to modify.
Really mad that I can’t say my favourite slurs on lemmy. Where can I be racist now?
The admins of one instance and the devs of the whole platform
It’s FOSS, so fork it and host it yourself or find someone else you like who has/can do so. I don’t personally think it’s too surprising that this free (as in freedom) platform was created by and initially attracted leftists and anarchists, and even if it is, I think it matters far, far less than everyone seems to think it does.
Serious question: Since it’s a federated system that is open-source, what do their political views have to do with supporting the platform? Even if they decide to become Neo-Nazis and change it, the rest of use can continue to use the work they’ve made thus far and keep it like it is or improve on it. Our use of it doesn’t support their political aspirations either aside from their beliefs in federated social media.
They have the censorship hard coded in. Why mess with a compromised platform when there are better alternatives available that don’t include censorship and human rights violations?
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622
You think lemmy “includes human rights violations?” What does that mean? Also, read the entire page you keep linking to. Slur filtering is optional.
I’m not that tech savvy…so please be patient. From what I can tell, the slurs are the only things that hard-coded in. Am I missing something else?
Does hard-coded mean it cannot be changed even though it’s FOSS? According to that conversation, they seem a bit concerned that the tables with the slurs can be easily removed.
I’m okay with slurs being blocked, but I guess it would depend on how they define the slurs and all that. Also, maybe it would be a better idea to remove the slur protection from the actual Fediverse and let instances apply their own version, but at the same time, I see benefit to blocking it universally. It’s not something that’s clearly black-and-white to me.
I guess that aside from their personal political views regarding marxism-leninism (I’m assuming that’s what ‘ml’ stand for), I’m confused as to how that practically affects the Fediverse. For what it’s worth, I tend to subscribe to anarcho-socialism, so while I have overlap with marxism-leninism, I’m vehemently opposed to any authoritarian/bureaucratic centralized control of an economy. Which means that I also don’t agree with their application of marxism. However, I see that as irrelevant to the Fediverse, and as far as I can tell, the Fediverse is quite decentralized anyway.
No, you just need to step up and become the guy known for maintaining the slur fork of Lemmy. 😏
I do believe this was changed some time ago though. It is a setting admins can change without compiling from source.
That is old discourse. The slur filter has been multilingual and not hardcoded for a while iirc (ignore the account date I’ve switched accounts a lot).
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Must be traumatic to have your worldview questioned for the first time. They’ve been fed anti-communists propaganda from birth and are now trying to avert their eyes, lol. Reminds me of evangelicals when they encounter “satanic” media.
Are you suggesting that there are no valid criticisms of communism, and then removing the agency of anyone who suggests otherwise? I’m genuinely curious as a socdem who likes a lot of liberal ideas.
I’m suggesting this is cult-like behavior, yes. People (especially communists) criticize various Marxist thinkers as well as the positions of communist parties all the time. Of course I don’t think every criticism is invalid. As far as I can tell, they’re barely even doing any criticizing in the linked thread, they’re just going “tankie warning!!! do not hang out with these people!!!”.
I’m happy to say that wasn’t the response I was expecting, but now I’m not sure what to do with my tankie pitchfork.
holy sh!t, this single thread was better than entire /r subs I have seen :-)
lol they’re going to reconsider their antipathy for reddit when they show up here and don’t have the entire reddit “policy” department putting their thumbs on the scales
https://www.mintpressnews.com/jessica-ashooh-reddit-national-security-state-plant/277639/
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