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Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

Fear Mongering About Range Anxiety Has To Stop — CT Governor Calls Out EV Opponents::Several state governors are fighting fear mongering as they attempt to reduce transportation emissions in their states.

  • helenslunchEnglish
    82·
    6 months ago

    You’re conflating Tesla with “EVs”. Simply don’t buy a Tesla if that’s what you want.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
      33·
      6 months ago

      Given Tesla’s market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is “typical” isn’t accurate. A large percentage isn’t replaceable so it’s something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

      • helenslunchEnglish
        52·
        6 months ago

        Given Tesla’s market share, your claim that easily replaced batteries is “typical” isn’t accurate.

        Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

        it’s something consumers should consider when choosing a brand.

        Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”, we were discussing EVs.

        • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          6 months ago

          Tesla is one of dozens of brands. So no.

          Tesla is 50% of all EV’s sold. So, yes.

          Yes but we weren’t discussing “choosing a brand”,

          That’s the point! You presented “swap a new battery” as obvious to the the OP when it’s not obvious. You have to first pick a brand that allows that. Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

          • helenslunchEnglish
            32·
            6 months ago

            Tesla is 50% of all EV’s sold. So, yes.

            Right so then “EVs”= “Tesla”? That’s the argument you want to go with?

            You presented “swap a new battery” as obvious to the the OP

            I didn’t present anything as obvious. Just a matter of fact.

            You have to first pick a brand that allows that.

            …which is easy enough?

            Model Y was first with structural battery but others like Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

            [Citation needed]

            • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              Right so then “EVs”= “Tesla”? That’s the argument you want to go with?

              I specifically DIDN’T say that! You said this:

              Like by the time you need a new one there will be several affordable third party options that will also increase your range.

              You didn’t qualify that with “only if you buy a model that doesn’t have a structural battery.”

              Volvo and BMW are coming soon.

              [Citation needed]

              https://www.sae.org/news/2023/01/bmw-future-batteries---ulrich

              https://www.just-auto.com/news/volvo-plans-to-make-battery-pack-part-of-body-structure/?cf-view

              GM too:

              https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/understanding-structural-ev-batteries-2021-07-23/

              • helenslunchEnglish
                1·
                6 months ago

                You didn’t qualify that with “only if you buy a model that doesn’t have a structural battery.”

                Yes that’s exactly my point.

                Engineers speak of the traditional “Russian nesting doll” method of building battery packs: Start with the battery cells, which then are assembled into modules and finally loaded into a large pack. If that pack is mounted directly to the vehicle frame or body and helps to stiffen and strengthen it, it is a “structural” battery.

                That’s how batteries are made today. They’re still perfectly serviceable. Tesla’s batteries aren’t serviceable because they’re filled with impenetrable foam.

                • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  6 months ago

                  You didn’t qualify that with “only if you buy a model that doesn’t have a structural battery.”

                  Yes that’s exactly my point.

                  So your argument has been that you agreed with me the entire time? Ok.