• FlowVoid@midwest.social
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    11 months ago

    If lend-lease didn’t contribute to Soviet success against Germany, then by the same reasoning Western military aid didn’t contribute to Ukrainian success against Russia. After all, nearly all of it arrived after the Battle of Kyiv.

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      11 months ago

      I didn’t say it did not contribute. I said that it was fundamentally too late for american lend-lease to change the outcome of the war, it had already been won. The nazis had one chance to win and once they were repelled they were never going to catch up with the speed of Soviet manufacturing.

      Some British lend-lease had arrived shortly before that battle. So they do not lose some credit, only the american lend-lease loses credit.

      then by the same reasoning Western military aid didn’t contribute to Ukrainian success against Russia. After all, nearly all of it arrived after the Battle of Kyiv.

      When ukraine actually breaks through russia’s defensive lines we can start talking about its effect on their success against russia. As you rightfully point out all of their gains at the start of this war occurred before any aid, and the lines of been more or less stagnant ever since. Their counter offensives this spring (became a summer offensive) have yet to break a single line, let alone all 3 lines. I think we should be expecting at least antoher 18 months of this assuming negotiations continue to be refused and that it is even undecided as of this point in time.