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A three panel meme of someone riding a bike.
- First panel: Someone riding on a bike. “Reddit is imploding, quick let’s get on Lemmy”
- Second panel: The bike starts to tip over on its own. “Oh shit there’s too many of us, we’re being defederated?”
- Third panel: They’ve fallen on the ground by the bike, holding their knee in pain. “Fucking Beehaw”
I use Lemmy.world regularly and I have never seen any toxic content. Also, most of the instances have very loose requirements to join so why did it only decide to defederate 2 instances?
I did, when I tried going over there. The discussions definitely felt… redditier, in a bad way, to me. More immediately jumping to rage and personal insults.
But mainly the problem as I understand it is that lemmy.world has open sign-ups, whereas beehaw.org has strict, admin-approval sign-up. Beehaw.org was getting flooded with users from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works who got in through their open sign-up and were then coming into beehaw, being assholes, and creating too much moderation work for the tiny volunteer mod team - they couldn’t moderate such a large and unregulated influx well enough to preserve the safe space or community feel of beehaw communities. Especially when banned individuals could just make new accounts and come right back again.
There was another post though where they said they’ve talked to the sh.itjust.works admin and are likely to work something out with them in the future to allow for re-federating, though not yet. But that the lemmy.world admin (at the time of the post) had not responded, iirc.
“Funny” that people think “Reddit is mistreating the mods, who do free work for them making the place bearable! Let’s jump ship and go to [whatever we call this federated-not-Reddit-thingle]!” and then come here and mistreat mods and make the place unbearable.
This has changed now! Everybody’s talking to everybody else at this point. None of the admins are upset at any of the other admins or anything, everyone’s chill except for (some of) the users
There is an admin post explaining this but basically it’s because a disproportionate amount of time spent moderating was due to content from those two instances.
The modlogs tell a different story. Hopefully they will be willing to start vetting users so this doesn’t decline into reddit 2.0
I’ve had the complete opposite experience, which is why I migrated to beehaw. I’m glad you’re not having any issues over there so far.
Loose is not the same and open. The two that have been defederated had open, which means that the problematic users could easily avoid all of the limited moderation tools that are currently in place on Lemmy.
If people properly understood the Fediverse and the fact that there are a lot of instances (or communities if you prefer) that cater to certain subject matter and discussion types, this whole attack upon Beehaw would be moot.
Why can’t some people grasp the fact that there are people who want civil and friendly discussions in a welcoming community? I’ll tell you who, those Redditors that made Reddit toxic in the first place!