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    10 months ago

    You’re still refusing to see the point.

    Do you think not allowing 2 year olds to run is an infringement on democracy?

    If not, then you agree that there are acceptable limits.

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      10 months ago

      I think a ban on voting for 2 year olds would be pointless. Saying its an infringement on democracy is also pointless, because it wouldnt disenfranchise a single voter. Its a nonsense strawman. Legalize 2 year old candidates, legalize people eating sand. You gonna expect to see a sand eating epidemic?

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        10 months ago

        I think a ban on voting for 2 year olds would be pointless.

        Jesus, dude… smh my head. It’s not a specific ban. It’s a minimum age, you doofus. Stop sidestepping the question.

        Do you agree that acceptable limits are possible?

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          10 months ago

          Stop ignoring my answers. For democracy, no, there’s no limits that I agree with.

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            10 months ago

            This is extremely naive. In the same vein, I suppose there’s no point in keeping murder illegal, since people should just know not to do that.

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              10 months ago

              Keep reaching for further and further strawmen. Democracy requires majorities of people to do anything. A few people voting for nonsense options doesnt do anything. A few people murdering actually kills people. If youre worried a majority of people will choose a nonsense option, well then you dont believe in democracy anymore.

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                10 months ago

                Keep reaching for further and further strawmen

                It’s not a strawman. You think a minimum age is “pointless” because “no one would actually vote for a child”. I transplanted that exact argument into a situation I knew would showcase its absurdity.

                Proving you wrong isn’t a fallacy!

                Democracy requires majorities of people to do anything.

                Majorities can be misled. Surely you’re aware of this?

                A few people voting for nonsense options doesnt do anything.

                It’s not “a few people” though. Trump is actively and increasingly popular despite his obvious crimes.

                A few people murdering actually kills people.

                A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. That’s democracy.

                If youre worried a majority of people will choose a nonsense option, well then you dont believe in democracy anymore.

                Now that’s a fallacy - A false dichotomy, AKA a black and white fallacy.

                According to you, there are only two options:

                1. I believe people only ever vote rationally.

                2. I don’t believe in democracy.

                This is absurd.

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                  Majorities can be misled.

                  Trump is actively and increasingly popular

                  A bloc of fanatics actually gets their way when organised. That’s democracy.

                  You dont believe in democracy. Democracy is people collectively deciding, and you dont like what people are collectively deciding.

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                    You sure changed your tune quick! What happened to this not being likely? What happened to it being pointless to block voting for criminals because they simply wouldn’t be that silly?

                    I believe in democracy. But I also believe in education - and you guys over there in the US aren’t good at either of those things. You have a corrupt, shambolic democracy and a failing education system that churns out dumb, blind followers to feed it.