You have not even read my source, give me something better than your vibes based analysis please.
You have not even read my source, give me something better than your vibes based analysis please.
Ok, I have watched the video, and because I never cared for amnesty that was nothing new. The video seems to reduce the deaths to mojahedin, which is provably not true. And it does not cite any sources, or link them. He uses “widely accepted” and other terms, but does not proove them. I am sorry, but I fear that it is not up to my standarts, esoecially with such a murky topic. He leaves out a lot of conrext sourrubding the events.
The problem with the executions from 1988 is that we have nothing but eyewitnesses about how many died in the prisons. We have enough proof that they happened(relatives were informed that their family had been executed etc.), but nowhere near the exact number. From what I have found 1/5 were Mujahedin(at least based on the one prison block in Evin we have some numbers for from the feydai) the rest were comprised of different groups.
The full scope of these executions remains unknown. We have few eyewitness accounts from the provinces. All we know for certain is that Isfahan was the only major provincial capital to escape them. The Isfahan prison was still administered by Montazeri supporters. What is more, the regime in 1988—unlike 1979 and 1981—released no lists. On the contrary, it insisted—and still does—that no such executions took place.
They did happen, and actually led to an internal split, where the primary successor of Khomenei was ousted.
The mass executions turned out to be the last straw for Montazeri. He rushed off three public letters—two to Khomeini, one to the Special Commission—denouncing in no uncertain terms these “thousands of executions.” He began by reminding the recipients that he had suffered more than they at the hands of the opposition as the Mojahedin had assassinated his son. He then took the Special Commission to task for violating Islam by executing repenters and minor offenders who in a proper court of law would have received a mere reprimand. He also took the commission to task for putting intolerable burdens on prisoners—even demanding they should walk through minefields. “In addition to alienating many citizens, these unlawful executions can provide our enemies abroad with valuable propaganda ammunition to hurl against us.”
The Majority Fedayi has published the names of 615 victims, giving, where possible, organizational affiliation and place of execution.[19] But this list is by no means complete as it is confined to specific blocks within Evin and Gohar Dasht. Of the 615, 137 were from the Mojadehin; 90, from the Tudeh; 108, from the Majority Fedayi; 20, from the Minority Fedayi; 21, from other Fedayi offshoots; 30, from Kumaleh; 12, from Rah-e Kargar; 3, from Peykar; and 12, from other leftist groups. The political affiliations of the other 182 remain unknown.
The Tudeh has published obituaries for eighty of its martyrs.
This is my main source: http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft3s2005jq;chunk.id=0;doc.view=print
P.S. These are the numbers from executions some years prior to the events I was talking about, these are mostly MEK, since the Tudeh was not yet illegal, and they are accurated, cause we have the numbers from the IRI.
Of the total of 7,943 executed, 6,472 belonged to the Mojahedin; 350, to the Fedayi; 255, to Peykar; 101, to the Kurdish Democratic party; 70, to the Kurdish Kumaleh; 66, to the Union of Communists; 60, to Rah-e Kargar; 33, to the Ranjbaran party; 21, to Tofan; and 76, to smaller Marxist organizations (Red Star, Poyan Group, Union of Communist Militants, Nabard Group, Razmandegan party, Arman-e Mostazafin, and the Union for the Liberation of Labor). Another 18 belonged to Forqan, a religious but highly anticlerical group.
Sorry I misread, and wrote before thinking. Bit I really wouldn’t defend the mass executions of prisoners, especially since to my knowledge we do not have sufficent sources to say that there really mostly were MEK.
Thousands of Tudeh and other communists were also in those prisons. (For example the entire Tudeh CK, but as far as I know they only got confessions tortured out of them)
And it’s not like the iranian state archives are open, or that they even exactly documented who died.
I don’t give a fuck about the MEK, but claiming the IRI is leftists is revisionist. I am sorry. I have been to Iran, I speak persian. I have read and listened to what iranian communists have to say about the islamic republic. It is not an ally to the iranisn working class, most of whom have been getting ever poorer over the last few years(Thanks to the sanctions, that is true) while members of the Pasdaran and the burgeoisie have been getting ever richer.
My problem is with you denying the reactionairy and burgeois character of the current iranian goverment. They are an enemy of the west, and as such should be supported against imperialist aggression (especially the sanctions), that does not mean I have to like them, or support their domestic policies. Why do you feel like you need to defend the IRI in it’s treatment of communist groups(except the MEK, which is reactionary garbage)?
Have you ever read an iranian communist? Bozorg Alavi mainly focused on literature, but he did write some stuff about the history of iran, which is accessible and readable.
I wish more people here would do actual critical support.
They also killed thousands of Tudeh members in prison without trial. Not MKO, the Tudeh, don’t reduce the mass death of our iranian comrades to them being “terrorists”. The IRI used the Iran-Iraq war as a pretext to eliminate all possible opposition groups in the country, among those various communist and pseudo-communist(MKO) factions. The Tudeh party was staunchly communist and aligned with the USSR.
The IRI is an anti-communist force, that it also is in some regards anti-imperialist does not change that. This is what critical support is about.
Don’t reduce the rich left-wing history of Iran to “they were all MKO”.
At least he looks like a prime candidate for heatstroke, what with not wearing a hat in summer in a desert. Already has the signature anglo-in-spain look. Like a rotissery chicken, or a lobster.
A guy I knows thinks ukraine could still win, if we only sent the right weapons and the right ammount. This is for him.
Oh that is very nice. It was one of the things that made me wary of travelling in china, since it would have really limited me. Though I also heard you could just get the cops to get you a place at a hotel, if you didn’t find one.
To be fair, my hair actually frizzes out when I don’t wash it (with conditioner). It’s fine for a day or two, but after that I should really get to it, because it also starts to itch.
You are right though, hygiene is a space of myth nowadays. Most info out there is bullshit.
Yeah, that common with dogs, but they wouldn’t kill you over it. Like warning bites are a thing.
If your dogs hates you to the point of opportunistic murder, it’s your own fault.
Yeah, that is the behaviour of a severly abused animal. People just horribly mistreat them.
How bad do you have to be with dogs for your own to attack you? Like, they are psychologically so close to humans, they are social pack animals.
I don’t think that anyone, that is interested in this for reactionairy reasons, would first find out about it from here. Semms unlikely.
Edit: Ah, that’s not true for of course, sorry didn’t read
The state is not buying stocks, or securities here, but physically existing real estate and turning it into a state owned good, not one owned by a private landlord
I actually like going to france? I seem to be the only person. I also like speaking the language. It is a fun one, very melodic.
This is an extremly fascinating piece of nedia, I only ever knew these for the football world coup, or the like. Did they sell these to children?
Armenia is where Brits go to learn persian, they are excluded from Iran, and I guess Tajikistan is too “exotic” for them or something (CIA goons go to tajikistan, if you meet an ami, with a tajik accent in his persian, you know why). So they go to Yerevan, have the “orient lite” experience, and learn persian from iranian teachers.
It is why all of those academic programs to yerevan are so expensive, because the british upper class/junior spies go there.
Yerevan itself is a lovely city, an beautiful example of soviet urban architecture. Outside of the big cities the country becomes very poor from what I have seen.
https://podverse.fm/episode/l2d_2J2_k Here is a good podcast episode of the war with azerbaijan, from an Armenian
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