MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]

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  • Continuing their state-protected tour of violence, dozens of Israeli fans beat a french fan in the stands of the France v Israel match the other night. Some media has framed it as ‘booing and clashes’ but more and more videos from the game have been appearing since then.

    Police and security did little to nothing to stop the violence as fans further down the stands looked on helplessly, but arrested French fans trying to get others out of the mob of Israeli hooligans. After the match an Israeli fan in an IDF tee shirt was interviewed by the French media grinning and saying the level of security was “wonderful, magnificent, maybe too much even” before pointing out that they had a “small incident in Block K” which they dealt with “directly”. There’s also video of French fans showing police and security, with video evidence on their phones, that the Israel fans were the aggressors. Of course they were ignored.

    Macron and other French ministers were at the match to “show their support for fighting anti-semitism” after Amsterdam. They didn’t mention or condemn the Israeli violence against French fans afterward from what I can see.

    When the leaders of European states repeatedly and reflexively defend Israeli violence against and above their own citizens as victims - in countries that are already sliding ever-rightward - they’re pouring fuel on the kindling of actual antisemitism. It’s going to end very badly indeed.













  • I don’t think you need to organise a specific false-flag style plan, when starting shit and then falling to the ground screaming at the refs has been your standard practice for decades. Especially when ‘the refs’ in this case are the reactionary media/state apparatus that has thier own multitude of interests in promoting Zionism and supressing dissent (dependence on the US, weapons sales, political contributions, media grants, growing unrest at home about declining conditions, Israel as a laboratory for oppressive foreign and domestic policy etc).

    The original reporting in Hebrew before the trip said Mossad agents were travelling with the team rather than the fans. I’m not saying that it impossible or even unlikely that some may have enjoyed joining their fash cohorts in putting the boot into people they hate either on the streets over those two nights or in the political and media response afterward, but just for the sake of accuracy I think that’s worth mentioning.

    There is no doubt however that the Israeli state has a number of well-oiled machines and even government departments whose entire purpose is to do this whenever they believe they can take advantage of events and twist them to their benefit. Most states do this to some degree, but Israel puts an absurd amount of money, technology, and manpower behind their efforts even comparatively.

    I think it’s business as usual.




  • Oh, one hundred percent. Depending on their age, seeing their father finally get an appropriate reaction for that sort of behaviour might be shocking but more positive than the alternative. But there’s no doubt the kid is a victim too, and for all the joy I see in the fash getting the appropriate response, the fact they were willing to try it in front of their kid is grim. The child will have to live with a racist, violent POS father who will almost certainly turn that rage on him at some point, and at a minumum will grow up in the shadow of the some of the most heinous racism, hate, and brainwashing just as background noise. And all of that is before the fact that he’s a negligent enough parent to abandon his kind while he takes up weapons and tries to assault or kill peaceful strangers.



  • They’re not even bothering with that here in the UK from what I’ve seen. To write or believe the kind of coverage our media is putting out you’d have to have:

    • Not followed any news or discussion about Israel or the reaction to protests in the last year.
    • Have no access to social media whatsoever, which it’s been all over since they they started doing this shit the day before the game.
    • Never have experienced being around Israeli tourists ever.
    • Know aboslutely nothing about international football and have actively avoided news following the Champions League all summer.
    • Not even watched the Euros earlier this year and seen the behaviour of Israel fans.

    Any one of these things would clue you into the fact that this Israeli fash-hooligan innocence narrative isn’t just cynical, but absolutely absurd on the face of it.

    So I couldn’t agree more. At best people will accurately look at the media and just go, ‘lying to our faces and taking us for idiots as usual, especially about Israel lately’ and more dangerously, potentially they’ll go ‘well the media must be controlled by Jews because why else would they shill such an obvious and insulting lie’. Even if you’re in legacy media I suspect neither of these outcomes would be good for you, never mind potentially fuelling actual antisemitism.