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This is how I’ve felt for every president we’ve had since (and including) Clinton… Which really is only because he’s the first president I was old enough in which to be aware. I’m sure further back was just as bad in their own ways.

Things off the top of my head:

Clinton - sex stuff.

Bush - Oh so many things. His bumbling… His weapons of mass destruction stuff…I mean, if they are so bad, why can we have them, but they can’t? I digress.

Obama - Authorizing terrorist attacks on Pakistan, also the failed health care reform.

Trump - Well… well… I honestly couldn’t much pay attention to what he was on about through the non-stop assalt he had from our media (also life stuff kept me pretty distracted those four years). But he was certainly one to rock the system.

Biden - Wow. The Ukraine/Biden(and family) stuff, the China/Biden(and family) stuff all the stuff happening while he was a VP… His bumbling is even worse than Bush’s was.

Yea, we’ve had a pretty embarrasing run of presidents in my lifetime. I know there are a few things Trump and Obama did in which I approve… But it’s few… Oh so few. The rest though… Nope.

Oh, and, I’m not so sure about Clinton’s races, I was too young, but all the folks that came in second to all these presidents? Not exactly great alternatives to what we got.

EDIT: Fix Spacing.

True, but this was in kandahar, I expect not much as changed…Except perhaps the selection.

Used to be? As late as 2011 I saw entire businesses dedicated to selling pirated movies.

Oh, I don’t know about that. I think Musk as a unique ability to spend money.

Ah thanks for the response!

I was actually thinking it as something like: For every 1btu produced by a standard electric heating unit, 3btu of heat would be produced by a heat pump.

Which, is basically what I understand you to claim. Every 100 watts of energy generates the equivalant of 300 watts of energy.

Ah, that makes sense.

But that aside, 300% of what? 300% of electric without the heat pump? It’s also my understand that heat pumps aren’t that great for heating if they are basic above ground units. Have to be the extra expensive dug in ones.

Guess those definitions changed since I last looked. Used to mean anything that’s somewhat obsessive. “I have a fetish for collecting paperclips”

Hell, I’d say #3 of cult is what fetish used to mean.

Well, people saying right is violently psycho, just pointing out that the left is just as bad.

On the low end I haven’t seen wages increase, if anything they’ve fallen, but they may be more to do with the whole of 2020 craziness that resulted in even greater worker shortages amongst the laborers, and the system comming back to equilibrium.

Foreign policy blunders? Pretty sure that’s the first thing Biden did. Jump out of Afghanistan so fast we abandoned Europe and trampled some of our own.

Then there’s the whole, cripple the European economy thing. I know there’s more to it than that, but with the Ukraine thing, America really pressured Europe into crippling itself.

But I digress. I’m not trying to defend trump, nor attack Biden. Just note my casual observinces of my local economy.

But what if you are an Italian cop?

I feel that the (crazy) leftists would support this.

Well, the standing president isn’t exactly the ideal picture of someone who isn’t facist…

Most people I meet seem reasonable until they get behind a keyboard… Or a wheel.

Thank you.

Making something obviously shameful is to do so with reason. Telling people they are stupid and being manipulated is not people reacting by digging in, they are just responding to personal attacks. That falls to self-defense. Rational discussions about your own beliefs give others a chance to accept them. Trying to force them is just… Well… Facisim.

Doesn’t that go both ways though?

On one end you are programmed to accept gays,

On the other you are programmed to reject.

And before all that, you are programmed to understand the concept of gay.

It’s all programming. Now that social programming happens so quickly and such large scale… Humans weren’t meant to handle that much programming.

Now, some people, at some point, start to question all programming. Those are the most resilient to direct programming from others, and the most able to program themselves based on judgement of all the programming going on.

But for the rest it’s just a frustrating mess of self inconsistencies.

Policies of Trump… I don’t know. About year two into his presidency, wages went up quite a bit in areas I lived in. Jobs became more available. General craziness was down, except for all those spouting hate at Trump the entire time.

I’m not saying I particularly paid much attention or attribute community growth due to his presidency, but things were getting better while he was president and dramatically tanked a year or two after Biden took over.

Just the general feel of places I’ve lived over the past 8 years or so.

For reference, I lived in low density suburban/rural areas during this time. May be way different in proper cities.

Exact same thing the left is doing. Non stop telling us how y is good and x is bad. If your family supports x, clearly they are crazy jew natzis who much be eliminated from your life! Get out now!!!

Also, Trump was saying that? I don’t remember that being brought up before.

Or if you read that story about how people rioted, burned down buildings, looted, attacked jews, etc… etc… etc… in portland… You never know how randomly violent /those/ people will be.

Seriously, people are fucked on both sides, and the more I watch things, the more I believe that it’s the people left and right of center that are the psychos.

The far right and left seem tame by comparison.

It’s like the honorable Zap Branagan said. You can’t trust those neutrals.