

Ro Khanna is a Justice Democrat. We WANT people like them more prevalent in the party, running for higher office.


Ro Khanna is a Justice Democrat. We WANT people like them more prevalent in the party, running for higher office.


It took me a while to find a moment to give it a go, but I created a test dataset under my main ZFS pool and added it to a CT - it did snapshots and replication fine.
The one question I have is - for the bind-mounts, I didn’t have any size set - and they accurately show remaining disk space for the pool they are on.
Here it seems I MUST give a size? Is that correct? I didn’t really want to allocate a smaller size for any given dataset, if possible. I saw something about storage-backed mount points, and adding them (via config file, versus GUI) and setting “size=0” - if this is of a ZFS dataset, would this “turn” it into a directory and prevent snapshotting or replicating to other nodes?
One last question - when I’m adding anything to the Datacenter’s storage section, do I want to check availability for all nodes? Does that matter?
Thanks again!


Ah makes sense. Will try to give this a go tomorrow when i have time/energy. Appreciate it, definitely will do!


Oh I added the disk resources via shell (via nano) to that config for the NFS server CT, following some guide for bind-mounts. I guess that’s the wrong format and treated them like directories instead of ZFS pools?
I’ll follow the formatting you’ve used (ans I think what results “naturally” from the GUI adding of such a ZFS storage dataset.
And yeah I don’t think replication works if it’s not ZFS, so I need to fix that.
Per your other commend - agreed regarding the snapshotting - it’s already saved me on a Home Assistant VM I have running, so I’d love to have that properly working for the actual data in the ZFS pools too.
Is it generally a best practice to only create the “root” ZFS pool and not these datasets within Proxmox (or any hypervisor)?
Thanks so much for your assistance BTW, this has all been reassuring that I’m not in some lost fool land, haha.


So currently I haven’t re-added any of the data-storing ZFS pools to the Datacenter storage section (wanted to understand what I’m doing before trying anything). Right now my storage.cfg reads as follows (without having added anything):
zfspool: virtualizing
pool virtualizing
content images,rootdir
mountpoint /virtualizing
nodes chimaera,executor,lusankya
sparse 0
zfspool: ctdata
pool virtualizing/ctdata
content rootdir
mountpoint /virtualizing/ctdata
sparse 0
zfspool: vmdata
pool virtualizing/vmdata
content images
mountpoint /virtualizing/vmdata
sparse 0
dir: ISOs
path /virtualizing/ISOs
content iso
prune-backups keep-all=1
shared 0
dir: templates
path /virtualizing/templates
content vztmpl
prune-backups keep-all=1
shared 0
dir: backup
path /virtualizing/backup
content backup
prune-backups keep-all=1
shared 0
dir: local
path /var/lib/vz
content snippets
prune-backups keep-all=1
shared 0
Under my ZFS pools (same on each node), I have the following:

The “holocron” pool is a RAIDZ1 combo of 4x8TB HDDs, “virtualizing” is RAID mirrored 2x2TB SSDs, and “spynet” is a single 4TB SSD (NVR storage).
When you say to “add a fresh disk” - you just mean to add a resource to a CT/VM, right? I trip on the terminology at times, haha. And would it be wise to add the root ZFS pool (such as “holocron”) or to add specific datasets under it (such as "Media or “Documents”)?
I’m intending to create a test dataset under “holocron” to test this all out before I put my real data through any risk, of course.


Ah, I see - this is effectively the same as the first image I shared, but via shell instead of GUI, right?
For my NFS server CT, my config file is as follows currently, with bind-mounts:
arch: amd64
cores: 2
hostname: bridge
memory: 512
mp0: /spynet/NVR,mp=/mnt/NVR,replicate=0,shared=1
mp1: /holocron/Documents,mp=/mnt/Documents,replicate=0,shared=1
mp2: /holocron/Media,mp=/mnt/Media,replicate=0,shared=1
mp3: /holocron/Syncthing,mp=/mnt/Syncthing,replicate=0,shared=1
net0: name=eth0,bridge=vmbr0,firewall=1,gw=192.168.0.1,hwaddr=BC:24:11:62:C2:13,ip=192.168.0.82/24,type=veth
onboot: 1
ostype: debian
rootfs: ctdata:subvol-101-disk-0,size=8G
startup: order=2
swap: 512
lxc.apparmor.profile: unconfined
lxc.cgroup2.devices.allow: a
lxc.cap.drop:
For full context, my list of ZFS pools (yes, I’m a Star Wars nerd):
NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
holocron 13.1T 7.89T 163K /holocron
holocron/Documents 63.7G 7.89T 52.0G /holocron/Documents
holocron/Media 12.8T 7.89T 12.8T /holocron/Media
holocron/Syncthing 281G 7.89T 153G /holocron/Syncthing
rpool 13.0G 202G 104K /rpool
rpool/ROOT 12.9G 202G 96K /rpool/ROOT
rpool/ROOT/pve-1 12.9G 202G 12.9G /
rpool/data 96K 202G 96K /rpool/data
rpool/var-lib-vz 104K 202G 104K /var/lib/vz
spynet 1.46T 2.05T 96K /spynet
spynet/NVR 1.46T 2.05T 1.46T /spynet/NVR
virtualizing 1.20T 574G 112K /virtualizing
virtualizing/ISOs 620M 574G 620M /virtualizing/ISOs
virtualizing/backup 263G 574G 263G /virtualizing/backup
virtualizing/ctdata 1.71G 574G 104K /virtualizing/ctdata
virtualizing/ctdata/subvol-100-disk-0 1.32G 6.68G 1.32G /virtualizing/ctdata/subvol-100-disk-0
virtualizing/ctdata/subvol-101-disk-0 401M 7.61G 401M /virtualizing/ctdata/subvol-101-disk-0
virtualizing/templates 120M 574G 120M /virtualizing/templates
virtualizing/vmdata 958G 574G 96K /virtualizing/vmdata
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-200-disk-0 3.09M 574G 88K -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-200-disk-1 462G 964G 72.5G -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-201-disk-0 3.11M 574G 108K -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-201-disk-1 407G 964G 17.2G -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-202-disk-0 3.07M 574G 76K -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-202-disk-1 49.2G 606G 16.7G -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-203-disk-0 3.11M 574G 116K -
virtualizing/vmdata/vm-203-disk-1 39.6G 606G 7.11G -
So you’re saying to list the relevant four ZFS datasets in there but, instead of as bind-points, as virtual drives (as seen in the “rootfs” line)? Or rather, as “storage backed mount points” from here:
https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Linux_Container#_storage_backed_mount_points
Hopefully I’m on the right track!


Hahaha I will not be measuring my power draw, don’t need a reason for my wife to question my absurd tech antics. xD


Oh I didn’t think the gap window is a bug - I was just acknowledging it, and I’m OK with it.
Definitely some ideas one day for the future but with my current time, architecture, and folks depending on certain services (and my own sanity with the many months I already spent on this), not really looking to re-do anything or wipe drives.
Just want to make the best of my ZFS situation for now - I know it can’t do everything that Ceph and GlusterFS can do.


Yeah sounds cool, but will likely need to be a project for a successor series of servers one day, given other limitations I have with switches, rack space (and money, haha).


Hmm, alright - yeah my other nodes have the same ZFS pools already made.
For adding a virtual drive, you mean going to this section, and choosing “Add: Hard Disk” then selecting whatever ZFS pool I would have added under the prior screenshot, under the highlighted red “Storage” box? Will the VM “see” the data already in that pool if it is attached to it like this?

Sorry for my ignorance - I’m a little confused by the “storagename:dataset” thing you mentioned?
And for another dumb question - when you say “copy the data into a regularly made virtual drive on the guest” - how is this different exactly?
One other thing comes to mind - instead of adding the ZFS pools to the VMs, what if I added them to my CT that runs an NFS server, via Mount Point (GUI) instead of the bind-mount way I currently have? Of course, I would need to add my existing ZFS pools to the Datacenter “Storage” section in the same way as previous discussed (with the weird content categories).


Gotcha - I’ll keep that in mind for maybe one day down the road. For now I’m limited in PCIe bandwidth lanes on the NICs I have in (10Gb internal networking) and zero open ports on my switches. :(


Well I guess it’s not too important the end-goal haha. I just have 3 redundant nodes with redundant pools in a cluster. The money’s been spent and the nodes have already been setup. A big part of it was just learning (I work in IT), another part of it is just “active backup” structure of 3 decentralized nodes.


Yep that’s also been a concern of mine - I don’t have replication coming from the other nodes as well.
When you say let PVE manage all of the replication - I guess that’s what the main focus of this post is - how? I have those ZFS data pools that are currently just bind-mounted to two CTs, with the VMs mapping to them via NFS (one CT being an NFS server). It’s my understanding that bind-mounted items aren’t supported to be replicated alongside the CTs to which they are attached.
Is there some other, better way to attach them? This is where that italics part comes in - can I just “Add Storage” for these pools and thenadd them via GUI to attach to CTs or VMs, even though they don’t fit those content categories?



I think so, but I already have a great deal of data stored on my existing pools - and I wanted the benefits of ZFS. Additionally, it’s my understanding that Ceph isn’t ideal unless you have a number of additional node-to-node direct connections - I don’t have this - insufficient PCIe slots in each node for additional NICs.
But thanks for flagging - in my original post(s) elsewhere I mentioned in the title that I was seeking to avoid Ceph and GlusterFS, and forgot to mention that here. 🙃


Hmm, O.K., so you do that part I mentioned in italics? This section under Datacenter, to add those ZFS pools storing data? And then attach them to a VM via GUI?

If I’m understanding correctly, what “Content” selection do you choose for your data files in such pools?
Yes. As far as I’m concerned, with notable exceptions of stuff like Andor (this is AMAZING), the real Star Wars story is the pre-Disney EU, which was, contrary to popular refrain, fairly consistent once they got the “keeper of the Holocron” to make sure the stories were relatively cohesive and didn’t contradict one-another.
A bunch of the authors even worked to retcon-remove the Dark Empire storyline with the reborn Emperor in their various series by referring to that as “mere rumors” and whatnot.
That’s not to say the entire EU was marvelous. But I read the vast majority of it - overall it entirely eclipses what Disney has been doing in terms of quality and depth. Not to mention…Disney, with their tabula rasa, still have stories contradicting one another and introducing inconsistencies…
For me, Disney’s Episodes 7-9 never happened. I consume and recognize anything that doesn’t materially contradict the prior EU - I’m O.K. with smoothing over, explaining away, and massaging stuff to make it work. But “Kylo Ren” is a dollar store knock-off of Darth Caedus.


Former USAF JAG here (lawyer). I was always a tech geek, undergrad major was in MIS actually, but I didn’t enjoy coding. Always ran Plex on the side, built my own computers, etc. Grew up with my Dad using Linux everywhere (I found this annoying as I just wanted to play games on Windows).
I didn’t enjoy law (surprise!). I was disillusioned with the criminal justice system too. Quit the law in 2020. Then suddenly had quality time by global happenstance to rethink my life path.
I work in IT now. Restarted at the bottom of a new career but I’m in deep nerd territory now - Proxmox servers, Home Assistant, networks with VLANs, OPNsense router, 22U server rack, Linux as my daily driver, etc.
Much happier now.


Yes it only works on Pixel phones. For other devices I recommend looking at DivestOS, CalyxOS, and LineageOS - in that order from best to worst insofar as de-Googling and privacy are concerned.
Hello friend. Indian American here. My parents immigrated here, and their ticket in was education. I understand your grades aren’t great, and I also acknowledge that my parents did come from middle-to-upper-class privilege.
I work for an IT company who employees (not outsources) individuals in India. Several of them have left India to come to the U.S. or Canada. For all of them, education has always been the way out. They knew they wanted out, so they grinded hard in the short-term, and applied aggressively abroad for graduate-level education.
Find a niche in something that does interest you. It seems you are very socioeconomically aware, consider something in such a realm that makes you stand out (yes, I understand this is easier said than done, especially in a nation of 1.3…1.4? billion).
Saying that, also understand that STEM-related expertise areas are much more sought after. So it might not be a bad idea to focus on that side and/or diversify.
I won’t contest a lot of what you said about India - much of that is accurate. Some of that is more cynical than necessary. But change is slow and it would be wrong of me to tell you to stay and change a nation in a region notoriously resistant to change. Unless you’re the next coming of Barack Obama charisma, in which case, please help change India, hahaha.
You’re young, you have plenty of time. So don’t feel burdened not finding a spark at this era in your life. My Mom immigrated here only after marriage, when she was 28. The coworkers I’ve mentioned have all been in their late 20s or early-to-mid 30s.
I want to add - you’re not worthless. Don’t devalue yourself needlessly based on the decrees of an unfair and unjust society or uncaring peers and family.
Most of the comments here are very wrong, assuming the worst, or deliberately have their head in the sand about some of the controversies and the reality of those situations.
LTT is casual-ish tech - not as mainstream casual as MKBHD ot UrAvgConsumer, but way more casual than say, Craft Computing.
I consume a ludicrous amount (and wide range) of TechTube and have seen plenty of controversies and have ditched plenty of channels due to scandals. GamersNexus used to be a favorite. Emphasis on past tense. They did a lot of deliberate hit pieces on LTT and it’s rather well documented - Zip Tie Tuning/Tech by Alex has a fantastic video shedding light on the misbehavior of GamersNexus - plenty of other folks also covered their motivations and unfair approach. Linus is a character - and definitely can be emotional - but his dialogue attempts with Steve were commendable - Steve just decided to be a whiny baby instead. Self-stylized “journalist” one might say.
Controversies fanned by GN are what rendered a lot of people anti-LTT, and unable to rectify their views once the attacks impacted. LTT had plenty to criticize (and I do), but the GN attack topics were not them.
I almost ditched LTT and boycotted them after all those attacks. But once the smoke cleared and reality made itself known, I was pleasantly surprised to have not knee-jerk reacted.
LTT like all channels is beholden to nonsense algorithmic marketing that all channels suffer, so I’ve noted more clickbaity behavior in recent videos.
I’m a far-left, pro-union, Linux-loving, Windows-hating, Apple-hating, Big Tech-hating, anti-sexual assault, anti-billionaire, pro-little guy type of person.
I consider LTT to be edutainment with more good impact than bad. They’ll suffer some of the pitfalls of capitalism with some aggressive marketing. They’ll naturally need to compete in the YT space. But the characters running the show seem to have their heads screwed on right and their morals in a good place. They will make mistakes. The WAN show sheds light on it - including at times Linus’ difficulty in handling blame. But he also often comes around - and all things considered I’m not too mad about that as his primary negative trait.
I don’t love the private plane purchase but there’s so much more nuance to that with an intended sell of it than others give allowance to understand.
Also I’d be remiss if I didn’t highlight Linus’ pro-trans (and broadly, LGBTQ+) approach - his support/ready defense of Emily when she came out was great to see.