Tldr news recently did a really good video on this topic that goes into more detail on what the statistics mean

https://youtu.be/gF1G47kyTxw

I’m sorry but I really dont see the difference between “because some feminists are awful all feminists are awful” and “because some men are awful all men are awful”. Theyre both bad faith arguments that likely only exist to justify the prejudice of the user. At the end of the day hating people over something like the colour of their skin or their gender is wrong. And normalising the use of that sort of hate in a group will quickly turn it into a hate group.

Couldnt someone use the same logic to say “Because some feminists hate men all feminists hate men”? I understand wanting to prevent people from detaching themselves from the problem but this just feels unnecessarily antagonistic.

I completely agree that a person’s belief that everyone should be treated with respect shouldn’t be conditional.

However I do think it’s possible for someone to want to distance themselves from a movement without compromising that belief. For example if you heard lots of people who identify as feminists saying “I hate men” you might start to feel that feminism was less about equal respect and more about hate.

Not saying that this is always the case but I do think it’s worth bearing in mind.