Dear Admins and Users of lemmy.world,

I am writing to express my concerns about the impact of lemmy.ml on our community. It has come to my attention that lemmy.ml frequently disseminates propaganda and engages in historical revisionism. Moreover, there have been instances where their admin privileges were used to suppress dissenting views, reminiscent of the already defederated lemmygrad instance.

While personal blocking of lemmy.ml is an option, it does not address the broader issue of new users potentially being influenced by misleading content. It is crucial that we protect our users from a continuous stream of biased information.

To illustrate these concerns, I have provided a link to a detailed post on the Fediverse that documents these issues comprehensively [Here].

Given these points, I urge the admins to consider a defederation from lemmy.ml. If their users wish to remain part of Lemmy.ml, that is entirely acceptable, but we should take steps to prevent the propagation of harmful misinformation, especially in their comment sections.

Thank you for your consideration.

  • DefederateLemmyMl
    241·
    17 days ago

    I believe some guy got banned from all .ml communities for posting things .ml didnt like about tianamin square.

    That was me, yes.

          • FutileRecipe@lemmy.world
            23·
            16 days ago

            But is everyone there a fascist? Or just some/most admins/mods? If everyone (not just mods, but users too) or most were, sure. I’d be willing to bet that most aren’t or even know about it. Defederating due to what some admins and where the majority of users don’t know sounds like “throwing out the baby with the bathwater.”

            • OpenStars@startrek.websiteEnglish
              4·
              16 days ago

              Not just the mods but the admins are using the deceptive database manipulation practices. i.e. this is not a fixable problem by merely appealing one layer up from a mod of a community - the only layer above admins is defederation from the Fediverse overall, which is what OP is advocating.

              It is a pain yes, but also it only takes 2 clicks to migrate your settings from one instance to another - go to Settings and under “Import/Export Settings” click the big Export button, then in the new click Import. With a similar iconic avatar and name, people likely won’t even notice the difference. Your old comments/posts/points won’t transfer though. Bonus: you can keep both, so while e.g. one instance is upgrading you still have another with which to read/reply/etc.

              People on lemmy.ml are going to notice a noticeably reduced functionality over the next several months regardless, as many, Many, MANY users start blocking the instance on a personal/user level even if not an instance-wide block. Imagine every single comment you write receives 10x fewer replies back, or votes, just you shouting into the void, and the only people responding back… are the fascists, and those more neutral to fascism.

              So OP is bringing up the problem, which is the first step towards healing. :-)

            • showmeyourkizinti@startrek.website
              2·
              16 days ago

              “If there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.” It really is as simple as that.

              • FutileRecipe@lemmy.world
                1·
                16 days ago

                Well, I did say (emphasis added):

                I’d be willing to bet that most aren’t or even know about it. Defederating due to what some admins and where the majority of users don’t know

                So are they Nazis if they don’t know they’re sitting at a table with a Nazi? Of course not. That saying only works when they knowingly accept it. It really is as simple as that.