Funny enough I haven’t heard the “I have nothing to hide” one much. They either don’t care about the topic at all (especially since they don’t notice the influence, even if it is there), or by now just accepted it because it’s too much trouble to do something about.

A bit off topic, but in continuation of that: And honestly, if you’re not already in it, I can kinda see that. If you know what to do, life without Big Tech and other tracking stuff isn’t too hard or inconvenient. But for Average Joe who barely knows how to open FB, setting all that crap up and finding everything out is a huge task. How often don’t we see people who are trying to do stuff that they think will help, but because XYZ reason actually doesn’t matter shit or even makes it worse instead of better?

Doesn’t change the fact I do have big interest in privacy & security, do what I can to better mine, and will help my close ones with it if I can. Nor does it change that I will advocate for it, and tell people (in honesty) that every step matters even if you can’t do it all. But at the same time I can kinda understand Average Joe being more busy with the stuff he notices directly is troubling him in his everyday life, and isn’t that eager to get into the deep rabbit hole of digital privacy.

It’s also why I like services like Proton and Signal. They are easy. While there sure is risk in not having all control yourself and instead relying on a provider who has closed off area’s and in theory could turn evil, Average Joe won’t ever get into the complexity of doing it himself. He either needs a pre-made easy-to-use setup, or he’ll go there where it is available at the cost of privacy.

I managed to get my almost my whole family and friendgroup on Signal. Some friends switched to Proton too. But even most into-IT ones aren’t on Matrix, Mastodon or Lemmy. It’s exactly because of this.