• maynarkh
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    7 months ago

    That’s my point, this is how the US works, this is not how democracy in general works. OP was saying that these faults are a natural consequence and inseparable from democracy. I’m bringing up a counterexample. It can be done better.

    I think we agree on that the US system is incapable of stopping such a wildly unpopular candidate if they reach a plurality of the votes.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Right, I’m just trying to head off the ridiculous idea that some people have that in the US we can vote for our ideal candidate.

      • agitatedpotato@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        There’s a difference between voting for an ideal candidate and not being able to vote for one materially supporting a genocide. “not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum. If not funding genocide is ‘idealistic’ to you, then I want no part of anything you’re trying to sell and normalize.

        • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          “not funding genocide” isn’t an ideal, it’s a bare minimum.

          Doesn’t matter, that option is not one of the two choices.

          It’s “try to restrain the genocide” or “make genocide worse”. Pick one. And if you say they’re equally bad, you’re an idiot.

          • agitatedpotato@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            7 months ago

            Who’s trying to restrain the genocide? Last I checked Biden says nice things then does nothing but send more weapons?

            Doesn’t matter, that option is not one of the two choices.

            This is the cause of voter apathy btw, when you tell people there’s no way to stop genocide, they’re not going to feel like they can effect change. And when voter apathy sets in democrats lose. Democrats know this, yet pursue political avenues that foster voter apathy. I live in a blue state, nothing I can do will save the Democrats from themselves.