• helenslunch
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    4 months ago

    Privacy is simply not a binary concept. Proton is as private as it can possibly (and legally) be, so I don’t think that checks out.

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      4 months ago

      Proton is as private as it can possibly (and legally) be

      That’s clearly inaccurate, since they could be headquartered in Panama, and store their data there. That would make them immune to Swiss court orders. There are already hosts which provide server space in Panama for exactly this reason.

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        4 months ago

        That would make them immune to Swiss court orders.

        LOL you can’t be serious. They would just be subject to Panamanian court orders.

        They are located in Switzerland specifically because it’s the most privacy-respecting country on the planet. If they get a court order in Switzerland, they’re gonna get one literally anywhere else.

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          LOL you can’t be serious. They would just be subject to Panamanian court orders.

          Yes, and since Panama has a long history of telling foreign nations to fuck off, data is much safer there than in Switzerland. At least as a non-Panamanian. You claim Switzerland is the “most privacy-respecting country on the planet,” but I’d like to see the evidence. Since they comply with every court order, then I would argue one’s data is no safer in Switzerland than most other European countries. Which is to say, completely unsafe from most Western governments.

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            4 months ago

            Since they comply with every court order

            What makes you think that?

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                4 months ago

                That’s not entirely correct, and in fact they do successfully challenge a large number of them.