The French military has concluded that Ukrainian forces used an American-supplied Patriot air defense system to shoot down a Russian plane carrying prisoners of war, an official told the Associated Press on Friday. Russian investigators have reached the same verdict.

The plane, a Russian Il-76, was shot down over Belgorod Region last Wednesday while carrying 65 captured Ukrainian servicemen who were set to take part in a prisoner swap later that day. All of the POWs, as well as three Russian officers and six crew members, died in the crash.

A French military official told the Associated Press that a Patriot air defense battery was used to target the plane from around 50 kilometers away. Ukrainian forces surreptitiously moved the battery into range before turning on its radar “just long enough to hit [the plane],” the official said.

With an initial search of the crash site suggesting that a French missile may have been used to commit the attack, sources within the French military have already been telling the media for more than a week that the missile involved was American.

In a report released on Thursday, Russia’s Investigative Committee concluded that the plane was brought down using two MIM-104A surface-to-air missiles launched from a Patriot battery near the Ukrainian village of Liptsy. Liptsy is located in Kharkov Region, around 10km from the Russian border.

Missile fragments found at the blast site bore English-language inscriptions, which revealed that the two projectiles were from a batch made in the 1980s. One piece read “Raytheon,” a reference to the US arms maker that jointly designed the Patriot system.

Following the Investigative Committee’s report, a source within Russia’s security services told TASS that it is very likely that there were American specialists among the crew operating the system.

(non-archive source: https://www.rt.com/russia/591734-france-ukraine-patriot-missile/ )

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    In 2002, American media outlets analyzed aerial photos of big metal tubes in the desert and confirmed that Saddam Hussein was definitely building nuclear missiles. How did that turn out, and what can be learned from it?

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      Media outlets confirmed that Saddam Hussein was definitely building nuclear missiles? I’m not sure that’s what actually happend. But regardless: There’s no reason to believe in anything without conclusive evidence or proof.

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        Literally from Wikipedia

        -On September 8, 2002, Michael R. Gordon and Judith Miller published a story in the New York Times titled “U.S. Says Hussein Intensifies Quest for A-Bomb Parts”:

        In the last 14 months, Iraq has sought to buy thousands of specially designed aluminum tubes, which American officials believe were intended as components of centrifuges to enrich uranium. American officials said several efforts to arrange the shipment of the aluminum tubes were blocked or intercepted but declined to say, citing the sensitivity of the intelligence, where they came from or how they were stopped. The diameter, thickness and other technical specifications of the aluminum tubes had persuaded American intelligence experts that they were meant for Iraq’s nuclear program, officials said, and that the latest attempt to ship the material had taken place in recent months. The attempted purchases are not the only signs of a renewed Iraqi interest in acquiring nuclear arms.

        You’re flailing here dude, just take the L and quit JAQing off on behalf of Nazis

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        I’m not sure that’s what actually happend. But regardless

        “I’m not sure this fact is true, I won’t do any research about it, now let me tell you more about what I think”

        you are a clown