Florida legislators have been quietly working to ban and criminalize the production and sale of cell-cultivated meat across the state, via the introduction of two bills.
banning it is doubly stupid in the face of it not being mass producible to begin with, check the literature, the bioreactors keep self-infecting; the only people pushing these are weird venture capitalists that are down bad on this investment, just eat some gosh darned beans, smh
The fact that today’s semiconductor industry exists is proof enough that you shouldn’t discount cultured meat ever becoming feasible. People are definitely getting ahead of themselves timescale-wise though.
banning it is doubly stupid in the face of it not being mass producible to begin with, check the literature
I’ll be completely honest and say I have never read any of the literature, but having said that there are clearly agricultural interests involved trying to kill it in its crib, why wouldn’t they make fake propaganda about it? Big oil kept climate change off peoples lips for generations.
Yup. Before this I’ll be honest and say I took everyone here at their word that it was not feasible even without looking into it myself, but this bill made me think “wait a minute”.
It does feel like it’s more a culture war nonce thing, given that the ban is happening in Florida - a state that doesn’t even produce oranges any more.
Yeah I’m extremely skeptical that it will ever be scalable, maybe I’m wrong. One of the reasons is that you need pharmaceutical grade bioreactors, completely clean. When animals get disease they have an immune system to fight it. In a bioreactor, if they get contaminated, instead of a animal cell culture you’ll just get a bacteria cell culture, because they reproduce so much faster.
Where I think there’s some optimism is for precision fermentation to produce some types of animal products like milk, egg whites, cheese
banning it is doubly stupid in the face of it not being mass producible to begin with, check the literature, the bioreactors keep self-infecting; the only people pushing these are weird venture capitalists that are down bad on this investment, just eat some gosh darned beans, smh
The fact that today’s semiconductor industry exists is proof enough that you shouldn’t discount cultured meat ever becoming feasible. People are definitely getting ahead of themselves timescale-wise though.
I’ll be completely honest and say I have never read any of the literature, but having said that there are clearly agricultural interests involved trying to kill it in its crib, why wouldn’t they make fake propaganda about it? Big oil kept climate change off peoples lips for generations.
The fact that they’re preemptively banning it makes me feel that it’s impressive enough to be nervous
Yup. Before this I’ll be honest and say I took everyone here at their word that it was not feasible even without looking into it myself, but this bill made me think “wait a minute”.
It does feel like it’s more a culture war nonce thing, given that the ban is happening in Florida - a state that doesn’t even produce oranges any more.
Yeah I’m extremely skeptical that it will ever be scalable, maybe I’m wrong. One of the reasons is that you need pharmaceutical grade bioreactors, completely clean. When animals get disease they have an immune system to fight it. In a bioreactor, if they get contaminated, instead of a animal cell culture you’ll just get a bacteria cell culture, because they reproduce so much faster.
Where I think there’s some optimism is for precision fermentation to produce some types of animal products like milk, egg whites, cheese
Easily producible cheese products that don’t require the horror show of modern milk production would be pretty awesome
Apparently China has had very good luck with pig skins for noodles
Lion’s mane is a good meat substitute.