• Organichedgehog@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Brainwashed take. Absolutely brainwashed. You’re also completely changing your argument. Im sure I could find a repub accusation that could be taken wholly at face value, and you’d say it was a confession of something else altogether.

    How about the Republicans that tanked their careers to break with Trump’s big lie? You think John McCain only spoke out of the sides of his mouth?

    Life isnt black and white. Some conservstive would say the same about Dems, and they’d be just as wrong and brainwashed as you are. Bye forever.

    • kescusay@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      Meh. You have no rejoinders to any of my specific examples, so you resort to insults and non sequiturs about things that weren’t accusations in the first place.

      If a Republican behaves like John McCain, who didn’t debase himself by hurling stupid accusations at his political opponents, why would you assume I’m lumping that sort of person in with the bullshit-accusations crowd?

      I said every accusation is a confession. How the actual fuck do you apply that to someone who isn’t throwing around bullshit accusations in the first place?

      Fuck outta here with that illogical claptrap. Goodbye forever? Great. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

      • Organichedgehog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        Here you go, you brainwashed chucklefuck. You think I couldn’t Google every single senator and find accusations levied that aren’t a confession? Now tell me exactly how these are exceptions to your “nO eXcEpTiOnS” braindead take. Literally took 3 seconds to look these up, and you think not a single example exists across the entire political spectrum.

        I also note that you didn’t respond to my example of politicians that broke with trump and levied accusations at him, at the cost of their career. NO EXCEPTIONS DERRRR

        https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/john-mccain-rand-paul-rule-19-vladimir-putin/index.html

        https://time.com/5130826/john-mccain-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-fbi/

        https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna388036

        For the record, I fully expect you to walk this back and tell me how “WELL THESE ARENT THE ACCUSATIONS I MEANT, I MEANT SPECIFICALLY [X]” even though you literally left no room for interpretation, nuance, or exceptions. Which was my exact point, which you clearly do not understand, through the reddit-induced brainwashed fog

          • kescusay@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            8 months ago

            Yeah, I’m kinda done with him. He said he was done with me, after all.

            It’s too bad, because I’m pretty sure this is down to a combination of misunderstanding hyperbole and misunderstanding exactly who I was talking about.

            The John McCain links are evidence of that, because McCain never hurled unfounded accusations with ironic truths underlying them at anyone.

            If, for example, McCain had embraced birtherism, the fact that he himself was born outside of the United States would have been a textbook example. But McCain had too much integrity to do that, so doesn’t fit the profile of accuser/confessor.

            For the life of me, I don’t get what’s so hard to understand. The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

            C’est la vie, I guess.

            • Organichedgehog@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              8 months ago

              The formula is simple: Stupid, mendacious accusation == confession about an ironic, underlying truth. No stupid, mendacious accusation? No ironic, underlying truth.

              Holy shit, introducing nuance? It’s almost like you understand my point and changed your argument to exactly what I suggested it should have been in the first place, but would never admit that you were wrong! Wow, I’m completely shocked!

            • Organichedgehog@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              Now I’d LOOOVE for you to tell me how

              “Every accusation…Every single one. No exceptions.” is the same as “stupid, mendacious accusation”. Cause non-“stupid, mendacious accusations” certainly sounds like the literal definition of an exception to “every accusation…every one”

              Betting you’ll sidestep or not answer tho lol

          • Organichedgehog@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            8 months ago

            Repeatedly doubling down on your “100% no exceptions all Republicans are pure evil” is a path to a more divided America and is only one very small step away from calling for violence. I’m ok calling that person a braindead chucklefuck.